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there's ai robots that can build a rock retaining wall, constructing pretty much anything will be done in 5 years tops.. AGI is 2030 at the latest. None of the

there's ai robots that can build a rock retaining wall, constructing pretty much anything will be done in 5 years tops.. AGI is 2030 at the latest. None of the things you mentioned cannot be done by ai or robots and easily I might add. Every one of them is eons easier than driving a car.

xkqd 3y ago
> constructing pretty much anything will be done in 5 years tops.. I’d be willing to wager my left leg against this claim.
- gremlinsinc 3y ago
  Have you seen the new robots openai has? They're already pretty jetson-like, and they're fast, not slow like google's demo with Palm2. Embodied AI systems will be able to complete a multitude of tasks before long, it's being emodied that gives them that edge and maybe even pushes towards true AGI, as we learn through all our senses, and different perceptions of the world, it's easier to learn from a full body experience, I'd imagine than a more dumbed down single-modality way. The top researchers at OpenAI and Google who've made claims and expressed their own fears about AI, aren't doing it for publicity, they know better than we could possibly know what's coming -they already have seen the next generation, like gpt5 or maybe even gpt6.. I'm not a Sam Altman fan boy, but I think he's legit when he says society needs to prepare, because changes are coming we can't rollback, and that will affect us world-wide.. I'd bet my left nut that immortality tech is solved 1-2 years following the first generation of AGI, and probably all cancers, and a myriad of other medical issues.
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dwighttk 3y ago
“5 years tops..” It’s always 5 years and it never comes…
- gremlinsinc 3y ago
  actually Kurtzweil predicted 2030... back in 95... and the way AI is advancing, many people who thought it'd be closer to 2050-2060 are now in the "next 5 years" camp, unless there's some major roadblock we don't see... google's recent genie ai is pretty astounding and might be the first steps towards an actual real metaverse type technology being able to create digital worlds on call, or on the fly... Self-driving cars never got here, because the issue was much harder than people planned, but AGI will solve even that, AGI means an AI that can do 150% of what a human can do - and better, Super AGI can do it 1 million things above and beyond and things we can't even fathom, as well as iterate on its own code to perfect itself even more every day or week...
  - dwighttk 3y ago
    The more we know the more we know we don’t know
- onlyrealcuzzo 3y ago
  The robots will be building nuclear fusion reactors autonomously any day now. /sarcasm in case not obvious.
Velofellow 3y ago
Being in the civil engineering / construction world - no, 5 years tops for "constructing pretty much anything" is not realistic. If 5 years is the horizon, I'd expect to be seeing pretty advanced proofs of concept right now, with field laborers shadowing robots performing QA/QC tasks. None of this is happening in land development or municipal construction from what I've seen. Consider gravity wastewater installation, which is a fairly simple activity: you've got crews who 1) clear and grub the land 2) perform mass grading 3) either use trenchers or excavators to dig a trench, then backfill to allow for installation at a later time 4) utility installation crew mobilizes begins installation. 5) backfill in lifts with a geo firm taking compaction densities. This is a simplification and omits inspection staff, OSHA safety concerns (because in a world with robots, humans will still need some construction oversight and provisions for safety). I have not seen these separate activities incorporate AI robots into any of their tasks. Not to say it won't get here eventually, but it's not gonna be 5 years.

xkqd 3y ago

> constructing pretty much anything will be done in 5 years tops.. I’d be willing to wager my left leg against this claim.

gremlinsinc 3y ago
Have you seen the new robots openai has? They're already pretty jetson-like, and they're fast, not slow like google's demo with Palm2. Embodied AI systems will be able to complete a multitude of tasks before long, it's being emodied that gives them that edge and maybe even pushes towards true AGI, as we learn through all our senses, and different perceptions of the world, it's easier to learn from a full body experience, I'd imagine than a more dumbed down single-modality way. The top researchers at OpenAI and Google who've made claims and expressed their own fears about AI, aren't doing it for publicity, they know better than we could possibly know what's coming -they already have seen the next generation, like gpt5 or maybe even gpt6.. I'm not a Sam Altman fan boy, but I think he's legit when he says society needs to prepare, because changes are coming we can't rollback, and that will affect us world-wide.. I'd bet my left nut that immortality tech is solved 1-2 years following the first generation of AGI, and probably all cancers, and a myriad of other medical issues.
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dwighttk 3y ago

“5 years tops..” It’s always 5 years and it never comes…

gremlinsinc 3y ago
actually Kurtzweil predicted 2030... back in 95... and the way AI is advancing, many people who thought it'd be closer to 2050-2060 are now in the "next 5 years" camp, unless there's some major roadblock we don't see... google's recent genie ai is pretty astounding and might be the first steps towards an actual real metaverse type technology being able to create digital worlds on call, or on the fly... Self-driving cars never got here, because the issue was much harder than people planned, but AGI will solve even that, AGI means an AI that can do 150% of what a human can do - and better, Super AGI can do it 1 million things above and beyond and things we can't even fathom, as well as iterate on its own code to perfect itself even more every day or week...
- dwighttk 3y ago
  The more we know the more we know we don’t know
onlyrealcuzzo 3y ago
The robots will be building nuclear fusion reactors autonomously any day now. /sarcasm in case not obvious.

Velofellow 3y ago

Being in the civil engineering / construction world - no, 5 years tops for "constructing pretty much anything" is not realistic. If 5 years is the horizon, I'd expect to be seeing pretty advanced proofs of concept right now, with field laborers shadowing robots performing QA/QC tasks. None of this is happening in land development or municipal construction from what I've seen. Consider gravity wastewater installation, which is a fairly simple activity: you've got crews who 1) clear and grub the land 2) perform mass grading 3) either use trenchers or excavators to dig a trench, then backfill to allow for installation at a later time 4) utility installation crew mobilizes begins installation. 5) backfill in lifts with a geo firm taking compaction densities. This is a simplification and omits inspection staff, OSHA safety concerns (because in a world with robots, humans will still need some construction oversight and provisions for safety). I have not seen these separate activities incorporate AI robots into any of their tasks. Not to say it won't get here eventually, but it's not gonna be 5 years.