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The article mentions that these fires are all man made. I assume it's due to increase farmland or ranch land. Can't the Brazilian Government stop this, or is it

by vondur 3y ago

The article mentions that these fires are all man made. I assume it's due to increase farmland or ranch land. Can't the Brazilian Government stop this, or is it quietly sanctioned by them?

NikkiA 3y ago
Have you seen how bad crime is in high density parts of Brazil? And you think they have the police force required to enforce rules on a 7 million km² area?
adgjlsfhk1 3y ago
it's relatively loudly sanctioning them.
- titzer 3y ago
  Don't mistake noise for action. One thing corrupt people love to do is make loud sounds that they are fighting corruption when they are not doing that, instead having their palms greased by people doing that exact kind of corruption.
_fizz_buzz_ 3y ago
The Amazon rain Forrest has also become much drier due to climate change.
xyst 3y ago
Last I heard the largest export for Brazil is their meat. The largest producer of meat is in fact headquartered and based out of Brazil — JBS, SA. They are a very corrupt entity [1,2,3] and likely have many Brazilian politicians in their pocket/on payroll. The list of controversies this company has would put Goldman Sachs to shame [4]. So it would not surprise me if the government was blind to the destruction of Amazon Rainforest. At this point, I am okay with the world taking ownership of the Amazon Rainforest and delegating protection to the natives that live in the Amazon Rainforest. Fuck JBS. Fuck the corrupt Brazilian government. [1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/meat-giant-jbss-owner-settles-u-s-corruption-charges-11602707950 https://www.wsj.com/articles/meat-giant-jbss-owner-settles-u... [2] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-15/brazil-s-batista-brothers-are-out-of-jail-and-worth-6-billion https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-15/brazil-s-... [3] https://www.wsj.com/articles/jbs-parent-to-pay-3-16-billion-to-settle-corruption-charges-in-brazil-1496232139 https://www.wsj.com/articles/jbs-parent-to-pay-3-16-billion-... [4] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JBS_S.A https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JBS_S.A.
- Tyrek 3y ago
  And how would this transfer take place? With Aircraft carriers and a naval invasion? Are we setting up for Falklands v2.0?
  - matheusmoreira 3y ago
    > And how would this transfer take place? With Aircraft carriers and a naval invasion? Can I make a wishlist? > Are we setting up for Falklands v2.0? Somehow I doubt that.
thomasstephan 3y ago
It's incredibly difficult to contain. These are very remote settlements and deep inland. Furthermore the government is ill-equipped to fight against it all. To have been working for years now on a project to protect the Amazon rainforest in southern Peru, even when pointing the illegal farming operations the government can't do much. At best they are overwhelmed, more often then not they don't even bother intervening if it's not on a national park land or border. Only private conservation efforts are managing to help slow down the spread, and they are very very localized.
matheusmoreira 3y ago
> Can't the Brazilian Government stop this They're too busy for that. They have far more important things to do like persecuting the previous president and implementing censorship and helping out their fellow communist dictators with brazilian taxpayer money.

by vondur 3y ago

The article mentions that these fires are all man made. I assume it's due to increase farmland or ranch land. Can't the Brazilian Government stop this, or is it quietly sanctioned by them?

NikkiA 3y ago

Have you seen how bad crime is in high density parts of Brazil? And you think they have the police force required to enforce rules on a 7 million km² area?

adgjlsfhk1 3y ago

it's relatively loudly sanctioning them.

titzer 3y ago
Don't mistake noise for action. One thing corrupt people love to do is make loud sounds that they are fighting corruption when they are not doing that, instead having their palms greased by people doing that exact kind of corruption.

_fizz_buzz_ 3y ago

The Amazon rain Forrest has also become much drier due to climate change.

xyst 3y ago

Last I heard the largest export for Brazil is their meat. The largest producer of meat is in fact headquartered and based out of Brazil — JBS, SA. They are a very corrupt entity [1,2,3] and likely have many Brazilian politicians in their pocket/on payroll. The list of controversies this company has would put Goldman Sachs to shame [4]. So it would not surprise me if the government was blind to the destruction of Amazon Rainforest. At this point, I am okay with the world taking ownership of the Amazon Rainforest and delegating protection to the natives that live in the Amazon Rainforest. Fuck JBS. Fuck the corrupt Brazilian government. [1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/meat-giant-jbss-owner-settles-u-s-corruption-charges-11602707950 https://www.wsj.com/articles/meat-giant-jbss-owner-settles-u... [2] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-15/brazil-s-batista-brothers-are-out-of-jail-and-worth-6-billion https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-15/brazil-s-... [3] https://www.wsj.com/articles/jbs-parent-to-pay-3-16-billion-to-settle-corruption-charges-in-brazil-1496232139 https://www.wsj.com/articles/jbs-parent-to-pay-3-16-billion-... [4] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JBS_S.A https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JBS_S.A.

Tyrek 3y ago
And how would this transfer take place? With Aircraft carriers and a naval invasion? Are we setting up for Falklands v2.0?
- matheusmoreira 3y ago
  > And how would this transfer take place? With Aircraft carriers and a naval invasion? Can I make a wishlist? > Are we setting up for Falklands v2.0? Somehow I doubt that.

thomasstephan 3y ago

It's incredibly difficult to contain. These are very remote settlements and deep inland. Furthermore the government is ill-equipped to fight against it all. To have been working for years now on a project to protect the Amazon rainforest in southern Peru, even when pointing the illegal farming operations the government can't do much. At best they are overwhelmed, more often then not they don't even bother intervening if it's not on a national park land or border. Only private conservation efforts are managing to help slow down the spread, and they are very very localized.

matheusmoreira 3y ago

> Can't the Brazilian Government stop this They're too busy for that. They have far more important things to do like persecuting the previous president and implementing censorship and helping out their fellow communist dictators with brazilian taxpayer money.