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It was also entrapment. It wasn't hunting with a drone. It was just flying a drone looking for the dead deer. This is another example of state trying to outla
by IronWolve 3y ago
It was also entrapment. It wasn't hunting with a drone. It was just flying a drone looking for the dead deer.
This is another example of state trying to outlaw something by chipping away at it. Making normal things illegal. Drones are legal. Looking for your kill is legal. Looking for your kill with a drone is a crime!
- solardev 3y agoThe ultimate crime of "doing legal things together, illegally"
- ceejayoz 3y agoI don't think this qualifies as entrapment. The agents were "pretending to be a hunter"; entrapment requires the crime be one "that the person would have otherwise been unlikely or unwilling to commit". It would've been entrapment if they'd openly said they were game wardens who needed assistance - the defense would be that they wouldn't normally help someone outside the context of a law enforcement request - but because this person would've helped a non-warden hunter in the same way, it's not entrapment. Same deal as drug/prostitution sting operations.
- jandrese 3y agoI think this is something the courts will have to decide. This guy has the possibility of setting some precedent here.
- Joker_vD 3y agoSo, "by one who would not have perpetrated it except for the trickery, persuasion or fraud of the officer or state agent" means that if they do something that they would have done because of the trickery, persuasion or fraud of someone who is not the officer or state agent, it's not entrapment. For instance, if an undercover cop threatens you to commit some crime at the gun point, it's not an entrapment since if he was not a cop, you'd probably do it anyhow. Is that how we read this? Really?
- xadhominemx 3y agoThat's not what entrapment is. In practice, entrapment is when you goad/harass/coerce someone into committing a crime they wouldn't otherwise commit. Asking nicely for a strangers help to commit a crime does not constitute entrapment.
- samatman 3y agoThere are cases which aren't ruled as entrapment which a reasonable person would see that way. Like providing weapons to an edgy teenager posting online and then arresting them for terrorism. This is not one of those cases. This is open-and-shut buying-drugs-from-the-known-drug-dealer not-entrapment. Whether what he was doing should be illegal is a more interesting question. Entrapment it is not.
- spacebacon 3y agoEntrapment defenses are rarely successful. It sounds good in theory Only. What the average human observes at blatant entrapment won’t hold up in court unfortunately.
- yellow_lead 3y agoA being legal and B being legal doesn't imply using A to do B is legal.
- alias_neo 3y agoDrinking is legal, and driving is legal...
- IronWolve 3y agoDrinking water is legal, driving is legal.
- pierat 3y agoAnd having legally required parking spot MINIMUMS for a bar directly implies the state endorses drinking and driving. Note that drinking and driving does not mean 'drunk driving'. But the state is expecting that soon-to-be-buzzed and drunk patrons drive home.
- alistairSH 3y agoNo, it wasn't entrapment. This defendant advertises recovery-by-drone as a service. He wasn't compelled to do something he wouldn't otherwise do - he was "hired" to perform an illegal task that he was previously known to offer.
- IronWolve 3y agoIt was entrapment. It might not have have been criminal entrapment under the law.
- kristjansson 3y agoIt's only entrapment if you would haven't have done it otherwise. This guy had a business doing it so... (that said clearly the conduct itself shouldn't actually be illegal, viz. the laws being passed to make it explicitly legal)