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The trend of legal rulings that bring the judicial system into disrepute is accelerating and this ought to terrify everyone.

solardev 3y ago
Freedom for me but not for thee! The US is a country where bribing politicians and enslaving prisoners is legal, but it's criminal to not want a baby or use lights to look for deer.
paleotrope 3y ago
Wickard v. Filburn Dred Scott v. Sandford Long history here of bad judicial decisions
alistairSH 3y ago
Use of drones and use of spotlights to hunt are both illegal. Not sure how this ruling brings the courts into disrepute. Should the laws on drones be updated? Possibly. But the spotlighting law exists for good reason. And the defendant was knowingly providing an illegal service (they didn't call him randomly - he advertised this service on Instagram).
- kristjansson 3y ago
  > advertised and on the front page of his website: https://www.wingyds.com https://www.wingyds.com
- xeromal 3y ago
  Using drones to hunt is illegal but his advertisement is to recover already shot game. I think that's worth the distinction
mindslight 3y ago
What leads you to say it's accelerating? The "war on drugs" was launched decades ago. Police have been unaccountable basically forever. For each right listed in the Bill of Rights, there have been egregious violations of it that have been blessed by the courts. If anything this seems like a relatively straightforward application of bad law. The court has actually avoided increasing their scope with more lofty ideals like equity (often referred to as "legislating from the bench").
- newsclues 3y ago
  Judicial corruption isn’t new but the open brazenness and sloppy job as of late, and targeting high profile people (President) sets a precedent that it’s now open season. Just my opinion as a non American observer.
  - mindslight 3y ago
    Have you formed this opinion from reading the actual judgements of the cases that you're characterizing as "targeting" ? I admittedly have not, but I did read the details of the cases said former president was filing about the election being "stolen", and ended up concluding that those filings were utterly baseless. With the way tax and business filings work in the US, there is wide leeway for making up your own numbers, with the threat of possible eventual scrutiny being the only incentive pushing people towards honesty. Given the blatant con he was trying to perpetrate with legal filings for the subject that I did dive deep into the details of, it's reasonable to prima facie accept the courts' conclusions that he was also running scams with tax and business records. Furthermore, in the US nobody is supposed to be above the law - even a sitting president must be bound by the law in order for the whole idea of seperation of powers and constitutional constraints to have merit. So it would actually be an undermining of the rule of law for such investigations and prosecutions to not proceed.
    - newsclues 3y ago
      What I tend to do, is listen to experts and real time fact check. So I have been listening to a variety of podcasts and YouTube commenters (there is a lot of lawyers producing content) and then pull up the documents on the cases they discuss and read them.

solardev 3y ago

Freedom for me but not for thee! The US is a country where bribing politicians and enslaving prisoners is legal, but it's criminal to not want a baby or use lights to look for deer.

paleotrope 3y ago

Wickard v. Filburn Dred Scott v. Sandford Long history here of bad judicial decisions

alistairSH 3y ago

Use of drones and use of spotlights to hunt are both illegal. Not sure how this ruling brings the courts into disrepute. Should the laws on drones be updated? Possibly. But the spotlighting law exists for good reason. And the defendant was knowingly providing an illegal service (they didn't call him randomly - he advertised this service on Instagram).

kristjansson 3y ago
> advertised and on the front page of his website: https://www.wingyds.com https://www.wingyds.com
xeromal 3y ago
Using drones to hunt is illegal but his advertisement is to recover already shot game. I think that's worth the distinction

mindslight 3y ago

What leads you to say it's accelerating? The "war on drugs" was launched decades ago. Police have been unaccountable basically forever. For each right listed in the Bill of Rights, there have been egregious violations of it that have been blessed by the courts. If anything this seems like a relatively straightforward application of bad law. The court has actually avoided increasing their scope with more lofty ideals like equity (often referred to as "legislating from the bench").

newsclues 3y ago
Judicial corruption isn’t new but the open brazenness and sloppy job as of late, and targeting high profile people (President) sets a precedent that it’s now open season. Just my opinion as a non American observer.
- mindslight 3y ago
  Have you formed this opinion from reading the actual judgements of the cases that you're characterizing as "targeting" ? I admittedly have not, but I did read the details of the cases said former president was filing about the election being "stolen", and ended up concluding that those filings were utterly baseless. With the way tax and business filings work in the US, there is wide leeway for making up your own numbers, with the threat of possible eventual scrutiny being the only incentive pushing people towards honesty. Given the blatant con he was trying to perpetrate with legal filings for the subject that I did dive deep into the details of, it's reasonable to prima facie accept the courts' conclusions that he was also running scams with tax and business records. Furthermore, in the US nobody is supposed to be above the law - even a sitting president must be bound by the law in order for the whole idea of seperation of powers and constitutional constraints to have merit. So it would actually be an undermining of the rule of law for such investigations and prosecutions to not proceed.
  - newsclues 3y ago
    What I tend to do, is listen to experts and real time fact check. So I have been listening to a variety of podcasts and YouTube commenters (there is a lot of lawyers producing content) and then pull up the documents on the cases they discuss and read them.