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Interesting that this kind of problem exists elsewhere. What happens in the UK is a developer buys a "listed" building - meaning it has a special status that me
by smcl 3y ago
Interesting that this kind of problem exists elsewhere. What happens in the UK is a developer buys a "listed" building - meaning it has a special status that means you need to preserve it and cannot knock it and down then, say, build a bunch of flats or offices on the same location. These buildings have a very unfortunate tendency to burn down overnight, leaving said developers with little option but to build apartments or offices there.
Just one of those things, eh!
- rootusrootus 3y agoThat seems like such an easy thing to fix, though. The land a listed building is sitting on should be zoned only for the listed building. If it burns down, it gets rebuilt exactly, or donated to the public. Allowing developers to benefit from such "accidents" is the problem.
- trogsworth 3y agoThis, at least sometimes, happens: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-68414524 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-68...
- NikkiA 3y agoLargely because it was reported so widely and was obvious what had happened. Where I live a listed church mysteriously burnt down the night after planning permission to turn it into a hotel was declined. Oddly it's just sat there as a burnt out husk for the last 15 years, rather than the developer forcing the issue.
- woleium 3y agoor the site is cleared and goes into a 50 year ‘public use’ lockup, where the developer owns it still, but it must be used for the public good for 50 years. A park or community garden, for example. Basically just enough to make it unattractive as an option for the contractor
- DANmode 3y agoStart doing things like this, you just might shake enough of the BS money out of the real estate markets to return to sanity.
- QuarterReptile 3y agoYou propose to make the real estate markets work better by further restricting supply?
- rootusrootus 3y agoAre you advocating for increasing supply through arson?
- DANmode 3y agoRestricting illegal profit-taking, where possible. Black money inflates markets. Inflated markets inflate other markets.
- 2devnull 3y agoThat worked well in the Bay Area. Definitely a bastion of sane real estate markets.
- wahnfrieden 3y agoGovt leadership is in bed with developers and would never enact such restrictions. But you can dream about how liberal processes could lead to rules you like better and try the well worn strategy of voting and waiting.
- rcstank 3y agoThis opens up forms of other abuse.
- dml2135 3y agoAnyone who has ever played Civ knows you need to chop those forests to build wonders.
- DANmode 3y agoFunny reference, but does not deserve to be the top reply.
- wahnfrieden 3y agoI’ve seen it happen before my own eyes in Toronto. Very popular developer Brad Lamb burns down historical buildings downtown in broad daylight with sometimes multiple attempts taken days apart. He’s highly successful and faces no repercussions.
- tetris11 3y ago> On March 23, 2020, Wellington House partially caught on fire amid the COVID-19 pandemic. Police say that at least one small explosion took place inside the abandoned semi-detached houses. Only two days later, the same building caught fire once again. You can't make this up... Jesus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_J._Lamb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_J._Lamb
- wahnfrieden 3y agoThat’s the one I saw. A huge plume of smoke in the middle of the day. He’s suspected of other arson activity over the years. Lots of organized crime, criminal business leaders and collusion with politicians here in Canada. But sure it’s democracy.