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I’d rather have an AI ghost town That points closer to letting people say what they want than a what we had before Musk’s takeover.

bdjsiqoocwk 3y ago
> I’d rather have an AI ghost town That points closer to letting people say what they want than a what we had before Musk’s takeover. Can you give us an example of something you wanted to say and weren't allowed?
- pipeline_peak 3y ago
  That a lot of companies who practice "diversity" and "inclusion" are racially and gender selective. It's not good for businesses because it reduces the talent pool. Also that Bud Light was pressured into a pro-trans campaign that did a lot of damage. I think it's well known there were many figure heads who knew their brand would suffer.
  - yowzadave 3y ago
    I find it hard to believe that you were disallowed from writing these statements on Twitter before Musk took over.
    - pipeline_peak 3y ago
      Then why was Trump banned?
      - rsynnott 3y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capito...
        pipeline_peak 3y ago
        So Alt-right supporters who he wasn’t directly affiliated with and even went lengths to publicly denounced. He was banned from Twitter for not even saying anything, that’s what you’re telling me.
  - bdjsiqoocwk 3y ago
    You couldn't say that on Twitter? I'm skeptical. Did you try? If so, what happened? If you didn't try, you don't really know.
    - pipeline_peak 3y ago
      Why was Trump banned?
      - bdjsiqoocwk 3y ago
        I have no idea, and I also have no idea how youd think that answering a question with an unrelated question leads to a productive conversation. Are you suggesting that Trump was banned for saying that diversity reduces the talent pool? What are you saying? Make a point. Your evasiveness suggests to me that your original claim was BS.
        pipeline_peak 3y ago
        https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39539591 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39539591
        bdjsiqoocwk 3y ago
        Yes, I heard it the first time that you didn't answer my question and instead changed subject. The fact is that no one was stopping you from saying on Twitter that diversity is bad for the talent pool, you just made it up.
        slater 3y ago
        Strong "Oh, you know the ones..." vibes coming from that guy.
        bdjsiqoocwk 3y ago
        99% of the times when people talk about "freedom of speech on Twitter", those are the ones. I suspect that getting banned on Twitter for saying something ambiguous that was misinterpreted is a tiny minority compared to those who are hellbent of hounding their pet hate minority and get banned for it.
- riffly 3y ago
  https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4681964-meghan-murphy-back-on-twitter https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4681964-meghan-mu... for example.
  - bdjsiqoocwk 3y ago
    "men aren't women though"? I'm really just checking if I know what to look at because I don't normally go to moms net is that what you're referring to?
    - riffly 3y ago
      Yes that's right. This is about Meghan Murphy, a journalist and feminist activist from Canada. That's what she tweeted when Musk let her back on Twitter, in reference to having been banned, temporarily, for saying "men aren't women though" in 2018. Later that year, she was then banned indefinitely for replying "yeah it's him" in reference to a male who had sued a number of female aestheticians in Vancouver for refusing to wax his scrotum. But, because this male identified himself as a woman, Murphy was banned from Twitter for "misgendering" him. This was, in general, a category of speech you weren't allowed to express on Twitter in the pre-Musk era. Even if you were talking about a male who was attempting to force women to touch his ballsack by court order. The Mumsnet link is from when she returned to Twitter, in the later comments it has a bit more backstory of what happened. This article explains it better: https://afterellen.com/twitter-bans-meghan-murphy-founder-of-canadas-leading-feminist-website https://afterellen.com/twitter-bans-meghan-murphy-founder-of...

bdjsiqoocwk 3y ago

> I’d rather have an AI ghost town That points closer to letting people say what they want than a what we had before Musk’s takeover. Can you give us an example of something you wanted to say and weren't allowed?

pipeline_peak 3y ago
That a lot of companies who practice "diversity" and "inclusion" are racially and gender selective. It's not good for businesses because it reduces the talent pool. Also that Bud Light was pressured into a pro-trans campaign that did a lot of damage. I think it's well known there were many figure heads who knew their brand would suffer.
- yowzadave 3y ago
  I find it hard to believe that you were disallowed from writing these statements on Twitter before Musk took over.
  - pipeline_peak 3y ago
    Then why was Trump banned?
    - rsynnott 3y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capito...
      - pipeline_peak 3y ago
        So Alt-right supporters who he wasn’t directly affiliated with and even went lengths to publicly denounced. He was banned from Twitter for not even saying anything, that’s what you’re telling me.
- bdjsiqoocwk 3y ago
  You couldn't say that on Twitter? I'm skeptical. Did you try? If so, what happened? If you didn't try, you don't really know.
  - pipeline_peak 3y ago
    Why was Trump banned?
    - bdjsiqoocwk 3y ago
      I have no idea, and I also have no idea how youd think that answering a question with an unrelated question leads to a productive conversation. Are you suggesting that Trump was banned for saying that diversity reduces the talent pool? What are you saying? Make a point. Your evasiveness suggests to me that your original claim was BS.
      - pipeline_peak 3y ago
        https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39539591 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39539591
        bdjsiqoocwk 3y ago
        Yes, I heard it the first time that you didn't answer my question and instead changed subject. The fact is that no one was stopping you from saying on Twitter that diversity is bad for the talent pool, you just made it up.
        slater 3y ago
        Strong "Oh, you know the ones..." vibes coming from that guy.
        bdjsiqoocwk 3y ago
        99% of the times when people talk about "freedom of speech on Twitter", those are the ones. I suspect that getting banned on Twitter for saying something ambiguous that was misinterpreted is a tiny minority compared to those who are hellbent of hounding their pet hate minority and get banned for it.
riffly 3y ago
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4681964-meghan-murphy-back-on-twitter https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4681964-meghan-mu... for example.
- bdjsiqoocwk 3y ago
  "men aren't women though"? I'm really just checking if I know what to look at because I don't normally go to moms net is that what you're referring to?
  - riffly 3y ago
    Yes that's right. This is about Meghan Murphy, a journalist and feminist activist from Canada. That's what she tweeted when Musk let her back on Twitter, in reference to having been banned, temporarily, for saying "men aren't women though" in 2018. Later that year, she was then banned indefinitely for replying "yeah it's him" in reference to a male who had sued a number of female aestheticians in Vancouver for refusing to wax his scrotum. But, because this male identified himself as a woman, Murphy was banned from Twitter for "misgendering" him. This was, in general, a category of speech you weren't allowed to express on Twitter in the pre-Musk era. Even if you were talking about a male who was attempting to force women to touch his ballsack by court order. The Mumsnet link is from when she returned to Twitter, in the later comments it has a bit more backstory of what happened. This article explains it better: https://afterellen.com/twitter-bans-meghan-murphy-founder-of-canadas-leading-feminist-website https://afterellen.com/twitter-bans-meghan-murphy-founder-of...