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White House urges developers to dump C and C++

56 points by isaacfrond 3y ago

AnimalMuppet 3y ago
Because developers are so eager to take technical advice from the White House... (Yes, I know, it's the White House Office of the National Cyber Director, not Joe Biden. Still, if you're a developer, and you are developing in C/C++ because reasons, and this announcement comes out, is that actually going to change either your mind or your reasons?)
nancyp 3y ago
So write everything in assembly then?
masfoobar 3y ago
"White House urges developers to dump C and C++" Translation:- Someone who works in the White House told officials that his son is learning Rust and that it is better than any other programming language. So the officials repeat the message to the public. White House says they are "open to suggestions" on what the best "safe" programming language to use moving forward. (Basically, if they are pushing on "safety" it is obvious people on the inside are pushing for Rust)
- ryan_j_naughton 3y ago
  >his son is learning Rust and that it is better I'm hoping this was sarcasm. This recommendation was in the form of a report by the Office of the National Cyber Director (ONCD) in the White House. I would suspect it had more thought to it than you're suggesting. I think this quote from the article is quite useful: "Recent studies from Microsoft and Google have found that about 70 percent of all security vulnerabilities are caused by memory safety issues." Which the article cites [1] [2] There is validity to their argument on the source of security vulnerabilities. [1] https://www.chromium.org/Home/chromium-security/memory-safety/ https://www.chromium.org/Home/chromium-security/memory-safet... [2] https://msrc.microsoft.com/blog/2019/07/a-proactive-approach-to-more-secure-code/ https://msrc.microsoft.com/blog/2019/07/a-proactive-approach...
bdjsiqoocwk 3y ago
The church of rust is infiltrating the government. They're worse than scientologists.
- npalli 3y ago
  All programming languages have advocates. Rust is special in that it is a bunch of advocates with a language. Can't stop advocating.
- belter 3y ago
  It was either that or Haskell...
ankitg12 3y ago
Dup - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39529845 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39529845

56 points by isaacfrond 3y ago

Because developers are so eager to take technical advice from the White House... (Yes, I know, it's the White House Office of the National Cyber Director, not Joe Biden. Still, if you're a developer, and you are developing in C/C++ because reasons, and this announcement comes out, is that actually going to change either your mind or your reasons?)

nancyp 3y ago

So write everything in assembly then?

masfoobar 3y ago

"White House urges developers to dump C and C++" Translation:- Someone who works in the White House told officials that his son is learning Rust and that it is better than any other programming language. So the officials repeat the message to the public. White House says they are "open to suggestions" on what the best "safe" programming language to use moving forward. (Basically, if they are pushing on "safety" it is obvious people on the inside are pushing for Rust)

ryan_j_naughton 3y ago
>his son is learning Rust and that it is better I'm hoping this was sarcasm. This recommendation was in the form of a report by the Office of the National Cyber Director (ONCD) in the White House. I would suspect it had more thought to it than you're suggesting. I think this quote from the article is quite useful: "Recent studies from Microsoft and Google have found that about 70 percent of all security vulnerabilities are caused by memory safety issues." Which the article cites [1] [2] There is validity to their argument on the source of security vulnerabilities. [1] https://www.chromium.org/Home/chromium-security/memory-safety/ https://www.chromium.org/Home/chromium-security/memory-safet... [2] https://msrc.microsoft.com/blog/2019/07/a-proactive-approach-to-more-secure-code/ https://msrc.microsoft.com/blog/2019/07/a-proactive-approach...

bdjsiqoocwk 3y ago

The church of rust is infiltrating the government. They're worse than scientologists.

npalli 3y ago
All programming languages have advocates. Rust is special in that it is a bunch of advocates with a language. Can't stop advocating.
belter 3y ago
It was either that or Haskell...

ankitg12 3y ago

Dup - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39529845 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39529845