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> I think hotdesking/hoteling is worse than any desk move because you get to have the feeling of uneasiness and disruption daily. It's interesting to observe h

> I think hotdesking/hoteling is worse than any desk move because you get to have the feeling of uneasiness and disruption daily. It's interesting to observe how many companies deliberately adopt policies which they _know_ cause employees to be less effective workers. It really does make you think, although... I don't know _what_ it makes me think. Like, to me, this is trivial. I know what people want from a working space. They want a little nook they can customise and personalise, a little space that they can both retreat into when they need to concentrate and invite people into when they need to discuss. A cubicle isn't perfect - an office with a closed door would be best - but a cubicle works. Yet cubicles have been utterly abandoned in favour of open-plan offices, which I've literally never seen anyone say anything positive about. Ever. It's just... how does this occur? And the smug reddit answer 'all CEOS are dark triad' isn't it because CEOs are not making these decisions.

wodenokoto 3y ago
Lots of people LOVE hot desking. I’ve seen work place advertise it as a benefit.
- 15457345234 3y ago
  What do they love about it? If you genuinely know people that like it, please ask them. Although I do notice that lots of people like to work from coffee shops so... I guess it might be pushing the same buttons...
  - steveBK123 3y ago
    Some people crave distraction
  - wodenokoto 3y ago
    My old job had floating seats in the main office, at they were very proud about it and showed it off during hiring process. My branch office had fixed seats, but it wasn't uncommon for clients to have floating seats. With fixed seats you risk being placed far away from who you are working with, so when I'm just there for a few weeks I did actually enjoy it, but for a permanent position I would hate it. But the pro's I remember hearing are: You get to sit with different people, you get to sit different place with different views. Desks looks clean, as people can't leave their stuff around. When you have visitors working (from other offices or consultants) it is easy to place them with people they are working with. When working in projects it is easy to change seating arrangement week to week or month to month to fit the changing project you are working on. > Although I do notice that lots of people like to work from coffee shops so... I guess it might be pushing the same buttons... I think you are right.
sweetjuly 3y ago
>Like, to me, this is trivial. I know what people want from a working space. They want a little nook they can customise and personalise This is what really gets me. The open floorplan can be attributed to delusional concepts of collaboration, but not having fixed desks makes no sense. Even with hot desking, humans being creatures of habit, most people will end up sitting at the exact same desk every day (and will get annoyed if someone else sits in "their" spot). Not giving people fixed desks just means they can't make the environment they spend half their waking hours in more pleasant, which is silly.

wodenokoto 3y ago

Lots of people LOVE hot desking. I’ve seen work place advertise it as a benefit.

15457345234 3y ago
What do they love about it? If you genuinely know people that like it, please ask them. Although I do notice that lots of people like to work from coffee shops so... I guess it might be pushing the same buttons...
- steveBK123 3y ago
  Some people crave distraction
- wodenokoto 3y ago
  My old job had floating seats in the main office, at they were very proud about it and showed it off during hiring process. My branch office had fixed seats, but it wasn't uncommon for clients to have floating seats. With fixed seats you risk being placed far away from who you are working with, so when I'm just there for a few weeks I did actually enjoy it, but for a permanent position I would hate it. But the pro's I remember hearing are: You get to sit with different people, you get to sit different place with different views. Desks looks clean, as people can't leave their stuff around. When you have visitors working (from other offices or consultants) it is easy to place them with people they are working with. When working in projects it is easy to change seating arrangement week to week or month to month to fit the changing project you are working on. > Although I do notice that lots of people like to work from coffee shops so... I guess it might be pushing the same buttons... I think you are right.

sweetjuly 3y ago

>Like, to me, this is trivial. I know what people want from a working space. They want a little nook they can customise and personalise This is what really gets me. The open floorplan can be attributed to delusional concepts of collaboration, but not having fixed desks makes no sense. Even with hot desking, humans being creatures of habit, most people will end up sitting at the exact same desk every day (and will get annoyed if someone else sits in "their" spot). Not giving people fixed desks just means they can't make the environment they spend half their waking hours in more pleasant, which is silly.