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Yes! I agree on so many levels. But at the current state of things people draw the line somewhere fictional and blame fast fashion while wearing fast fashion.

by herbst 3y ago

Yes! I agree on so many levels. But at the current state of things people draw the line somewhere fictional and blame fast fashion while wearing fast fashion. There is no indicator that shein is either worse or better than H&M or Adidas. All acting really hazardous to their environment and using forced labor. There is literally no number I can find that would even suggest that H&M or Adidas are doing less bad to the environment. Adidas might has a durability standard that makes it more worthy but that's not true for Zara, H&M, Shein and all other non sporty fast fashion brands. And don't get me started how many 'luxury' brands use the exact same production chain. > Why do you need to draw a line? I worry because people hate on each other while all doing the exact same shit. Most people can't afford fair fashion at the current market. Many who could afford it still choose to buy bad brands. This is where we need change, not blame shein but happily buy fake eco from h&m and think this is somehow better. This won't change the market to the better.

kergonath 3y ago
> But at the current state of things people draw the line somewhere fictional and blame fast fashion while wearing fast fashion. Indeed. Part of the problem is that nobody wants to spend money, so cheap clothes seem like a good bargain. We just don’t see the real cost because we have really poor estimates for how long these clothes will last. That’s typically something that needs to be solved by regulation as the people by themselves won’t turn away. > There is literally no number I can find that would even suggest that H&M or Adidas are doing less bad to the environment. Definitely! Now, there are differences at the edges, like old-school retailers using less harmful transport modes than plane and contributing to local communities through their physical presence (jobs and taxes). But yes, the core issue is the same. > This won't change the market to the better. Yes, people are getting squeezed and disposable income is not improving. Blaming them for buying cheap stuff so they have some money to do something nice is counterproductive and reeks of elitism.

by herbst 3y ago

kergonath 3y ago

> But at the current state of things people draw the line somewhere fictional and blame fast fashion while wearing fast fashion. Indeed. Part of the problem is that nobody wants to spend money, so cheap clothes seem like a good bargain. We just don’t see the real cost because we have really poor estimates for how long these clothes will last. That’s typically something that needs to be solved by regulation as the people by themselves won’t turn away. > There is literally no number I can find that would even suggest that H&M or Adidas are doing less bad to the environment. Definitely! Now, there are differences at the edges, like old-school retailers using less harmful transport modes than plane and contributing to local communities through their physical presence (jobs and taxes). But yes, the core issue is the same. > This won't change the market to the better. Yes, people are getting squeezed and disposable income is not improving. Blaming them for buying cheap stuff so they have some money to do something nice is counterproductive and reeks of elitism.