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Something feels a bit off about the creator of this site also pushing a competitor. On one hand, they're upfront about it, and on the other.. they're upfront ab

Something feels a bit off about the creator of this site also pushing a competitor. On one hand, they're upfront about it, and on the other.. they're upfront about it. At least it might prompt the companies in question to be a bit less scummy.

andrasbacsai 3y ago
Which competitor do I push exactly? :) (I created serverlesshorrors)
- hurflmurfl 3y ago
  The link to the "competitor" is front and center on the site, so I imagine what you're really trying to say is that this is NOT a competitor for the following reasons: <missing>. Otherwise this seems like a bait question:)
  - d1sxeyes 3y ago
    Andras (who created both Serverless Horrors and Coolify, which I imagine you're describing as the competitor here) is a pretty solid guy from everything I've seen and I've never seen him ask bait questions or engage in bad faith in discussions here or on other platforms. Although he calls Coolify a Netlify 'alternative', it's 100% 'bring-your-own-server', and is not at all serverless. Coolify is basically a (very nice and featureful) fancy frontend to Docker with integration with Git. Coolify is free if you want to install it yourself and don't mind the (minimal) tinkering needed to get it set up and keep it up-to-date, although you can pay a monthly fee to have your own servers managed for you, the main benefits are either to support continued development, or to access priority support. You still need to bring your own server, even if you're paying the management fee. It's not a competitor to Netlify, it's an alternative.
    - hurflmurfl 3y ago
      Just to clarify, I didn't think that Coolify is a competitor. What I was getting at is that we now have a thread with 4 replies: (1) you pitch competing product (2) what product? (3) Coolify (4) it's not competitor because ... I just wanted to point out that comment #2 only seems to prompt question #3, whereas the helpful reply #4 created by yourself obviates the need for #2 and #3.
wandernauta 3y ago
I agree, especially because I'm not even sure the pushed competitor solves the problem that's being highlighted here. All the horror stories so far seem to be about people using a lot of metered resources, like bandwidth, and then getting billed for those resources. With the pushed competitor you can self-host your Vercel or Netlify alternative on your own EC2 instance - but then if someone downloads 60 terabytes worth of data from you, you still get to pay for that bandwidth. You still get an unexpected large bill.
- andrasbacsai 3y ago
  Sure, but take a look at this: https://getdeploying.com/reference/data-egress https://getdeploying.com/reference/data-egress 60 TB On Hetzner (VPS provider): $1. On Netlify: $33,000

andrasbacsai 3y ago

Which competitor do I push exactly? :) (I created serverlesshorrors)

hurflmurfl 3y ago
The link to the "competitor" is front and center on the site, so I imagine what you're really trying to say is that this is NOT a competitor for the following reasons: <missing>. Otherwise this seems like a bait question:)
- d1sxeyes 3y ago
  Andras (who created both Serverless Horrors and Coolify, which I imagine you're describing as the competitor here) is a pretty solid guy from everything I've seen and I've never seen him ask bait questions or engage in bad faith in discussions here or on other platforms. Although he calls Coolify a Netlify 'alternative', it's 100% 'bring-your-own-server', and is not at all serverless. Coolify is basically a (very nice and featureful) fancy frontend to Docker with integration with Git. Coolify is free if you want to install it yourself and don't mind the (minimal) tinkering needed to get it set up and keep it up-to-date, although you can pay a monthly fee to have your own servers managed for you, the main benefits are either to support continued development, or to access priority support. You still need to bring your own server, even if you're paying the management fee. It's not a competitor to Netlify, it's an alternative.
  - hurflmurfl 3y ago
    Just to clarify, I didn't think that Coolify is a competitor. What I was getting at is that we now have a thread with 4 replies: (1) you pitch competing product (2) what product? (3) Coolify (4) it's not competitor because ... I just wanted to point out that comment #2 only seems to prompt question #3, whereas the helpful reply #4 created by yourself obviates the need for #2 and #3.

wandernauta 3y ago

I agree, especially because I'm not even sure the pushed competitor solves the problem that's being highlighted here. All the horror stories so far seem to be about people using a lot of metered resources, like bandwidth, and then getting billed for those resources. With the pushed competitor you can self-host your Vercel or Netlify alternative on your own EC2 instance - but then if someone downloads 60 terabytes worth of data from you, you still get to pay for that bandwidth. You still get an unexpected large bill.

andrasbacsai 3y ago
Sure, but take a look at this: https://getdeploying.com/reference/data-egress https://getdeploying.com/reference/data-egress 60 TB On Hetzner (VPS provider): $1. On Netlify: $33,000