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Framework Laptop 16 review: the ultimate in modular PCs

18 points by beardyw 3y ago

ElijahLynn 3y ago
I'm so ready to buy a Framework once it has: * Touchscreen plus pen * Tent Mode * ThinkPad/Dell Pointer Stick in the middle of the keyboard Until then, my X1 Yoga (Arch) is my favorite! Would LOVE to get a Framework though, but can't handle a UX regression hit to my workflow and productivity. I'm hopeful that there will be 3rd party options for these features soon!!!
sanitycheck 3y ago
The obvious nitpick with the title is it should probably say "laptops", not "PCs". This looks like a nice device but the little USB modules still feel like more of a gimmick than anything. Give me twice as many soldered ports in the same space and I won't have to fiddle around with (let alone buy) a bunch of these adapters. Sadly my deal-breaker remains - even on a great big 16" slab we still get the horrible half-height up/down cursor keys. What I really do like about Framework is the ecosystem that's starting to grow around reusing old parts, that's excellent.
- Cheer2171 3y ago
  I can't seem to quit my Thinkpad, even as Lenovo gets worse. I need a Thinkpad style trackpoint. I was expecting after at least a few years, this would be available because modding old school Thinkpads is big in the same scene that Framework is in, but no. Also any laptop I buy needs to have: 2x USB-C, 2x USB-A, 1x HDMI, 1x SD card, and 1x Ethernet. With framework 14, I get 4 ports and have to carry 3 adapters. If I want Ethernet, it isn't flush with the device. This seems absurd.
  - ElijahLynn 3y ago
    Same, I'm so much faster with the touch stick touch pointer thing than a trackpad.
- zvmaz 3y ago
  > Give me twice as many soldered ports in the same space and I won't have to fiddle around with (let alone buy) a bunch of these adapters. Solution: connect them, leave them connected, don't touch them, and you won't have to "fiddle around with (let alone buy) a bunch of these adapters."
  - Cheer2171 3y ago
    Edit: the framework 16 has six ports, not four. I remain infuriated by the framework 14 .
    - hollerith 3y ago
      >Four ports is not enough. The Laptop 16 has six ports, as anyone can see in the second photo in the OP: https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/366abf477764c02feed15e0be103fc1ed167f2bb/0_86_5456_3273/master/5456.jpg?width=620&dpr=2&s=none https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/366abf477764c02feed15e0be103f...
  - bravetraveler 3y ago
    Pretty sure they don't have a compulsion to change things for no reason

18 points by beardyw 3y ago

I'm so ready to buy a Framework once it has: * Touchscreen plus pen * Tent Mode * ThinkPad/Dell Pointer Stick in the middle of the keyboard Until then, my X1 Yoga (Arch) is my favorite! Would LOVE to get a Framework though, but can't handle a UX regression hit to my workflow and productivity. I'm hopeful that there will be 3rd party options for these features soon!!!

sanitycheck 3y ago

The obvious nitpick with the title is it should probably say "laptops", not "PCs". This looks like a nice device but the little USB modules still feel like more of a gimmick than anything. Give me twice as many soldered ports in the same space and I won't have to fiddle around with (let alone buy) a bunch of these adapters. Sadly my deal-breaker remains - even on a great big 16" slab we still get the horrible half-height up/down cursor keys. What I really do like about Framework is the ecosystem that's starting to grow around reusing old parts, that's excellent.

Cheer2171 3y ago
I can't seem to quit my Thinkpad, even as Lenovo gets worse. I need a Thinkpad style trackpoint. I was expecting after at least a few years, this would be available because modding old school Thinkpads is big in the same scene that Framework is in, but no. Also any laptop I buy needs to have: 2x USB-C, 2x USB-A, 1x HDMI, 1x SD card, and 1x Ethernet. With framework 14, I get 4 ports and have to carry 3 adapters. If I want Ethernet, it isn't flush with the device. This seems absurd.
- ElijahLynn 3y ago
  Same, I'm so much faster with the touch stick touch pointer thing than a trackpad.
zvmaz 3y ago
> Give me twice as many soldered ports in the same space and I won't have to fiddle around with (let alone buy) a bunch of these adapters. Solution: connect them, leave them connected, don't touch them, and you won't have to "fiddle around with (let alone buy) a bunch of these adapters."
- Cheer2171 3y ago
  Edit: the framework 16 has six ports, not four. I remain infuriated by the framework 14 .
  - hollerith 3y ago
    >Four ports is not enough. The Laptop 16 has six ports, as anyone can see in the second photo in the OP: https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/366abf477764c02feed15e0be103fc1ed167f2bb/0_86_5456_3273/master/5456.jpg?width=620&dpr=2&s=none https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/366abf477764c02feed15e0be103f...
- bravetraveler 3y ago
  Pretty sure they don't have a compulsion to change things for no reason