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What does Apple‘s walled garden have to do with bluetooth headphones? Now, look at AirPods, simple bluetooth headphones, with tight integration with iOS. I was

What does Apple‘s walled garden have to do with bluetooth headphones? Now, look at AirPods, simple bluetooth headphones, with tight integration with iOS. I was the one ridiculing Apple for even entering this market and I thought they looked dumb. Sony XMs looked way better. Now headphones are a sizable market for Apple. So many of my friends are awaiting the refreshed AirPods Max. The same people that said they would never buy AirPods when they launched.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
You still haven't said what the differentiator of an Apple car would be.
- theturtletalks 3y ago
  Maybe an enhanced version of CarPlay or something more nefarious like cutting off other auto makers from using CarPlay anymore. People that are used to CarPlay might be inclined to jump ship. Trust me, Apple will find a way to leverage their walled garden, to my chagrin. Just look at how they’re maliciously complying with the EU DMA law. I want to leave Apple’s walled garden myself, but can’t deny it exists. Green bubble vs blue bubble another example.
- type0 3y ago
  Proprietary tires that you can only blow up with special hardware that you rent from Apple
vel0city 3y ago
> simple bluetooth headphones That's the thing. With other Apple devices, they're not simple bluetooth headphones. They have added features and functionality that only really work with other Apple products due to their proprietary protocols on top of regular Bluetooth. _No_ other Bluetooth headphones can work quite like Airpods do, because of the walled garden. So, you have your expensive Apple headphones that only really give full functionality with Apple devices so you're more likely to keep buying an iPhone. And vice-versa, you have more of a reason to buy the expensive Apple headphones because no other headphones will give the full experience the Apple headphones can give you on that platform. Are there really features that Apple is going to bake into their cars to ensure it only really gets those features for Apple users? Like what, the head unit will only work with an iPhone? Would you really buy a $30,000+ piece of equipment that necessitated a specific phone model to actually get a lot of key features out of it?
- theturtletalks 3y ago
  An enhanced CarPlay or even going as far as removing CarPlay from existing car manufacturers.
- rezonant 3y ago
  > Are there really features that Apple is going to bake into their cars to ensure it only really gets those features for Apple users? Uh yes, of course. I would be highly surprised if there weren't. That's Apple's MO.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago

You still haven't said what the differentiator of an Apple car would be.

theturtletalks 3y ago
Maybe an enhanced version of CarPlay or something more nefarious like cutting off other auto makers from using CarPlay anymore. People that are used to CarPlay might be inclined to jump ship. Trust me, Apple will find a way to leverage their walled garden, to my chagrin. Just look at how they’re maliciously complying with the EU DMA law. I want to leave Apple’s walled garden myself, but can’t deny it exists. Green bubble vs blue bubble another example.
type0 3y ago
Proprietary tires that you can only blow up with special hardware that you rent from Apple

vel0city 3y ago

> simple bluetooth headphones That's the thing. With other Apple devices, they're not simple bluetooth headphones. They have added features and functionality that only really work with other Apple products due to their proprietary protocols on top of regular Bluetooth. _No_ other Bluetooth headphones can work quite like Airpods do, because of the walled garden. So, you have your expensive Apple headphones that only really give full functionality with Apple devices so you're more likely to keep buying an iPhone. And vice-versa, you have more of a reason to buy the expensive Apple headphones because no other headphones will give the full experience the Apple headphones can give you on that platform. Are there really features that Apple is going to bake into their cars to ensure it only really gets those features for Apple users? Like what, the head unit will only work with an iPhone? Would you really buy a $30,000+ piece of equipment that necessitated a specific phone model to actually get a lot of key features out of it?

theturtletalks 3y ago
An enhanced CarPlay or even going as far as removing CarPlay from existing car manufacturers.
rezonant 3y ago
> Are there really features that Apple is going to bake into their cars to ensure it only really gets those features for Apple users? Uh yes, of course. I would be highly surprised if there weren't. That's Apple's MO.