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Yet another small country given the power to cause the destruction of US cities. If the US gets enmeshed in a conflict because of Sweden, which US cities do yo

Yet another small country given the power to cause the destruction of US cities. If the US gets enmeshed in a conflict because of Sweden, which US cities do you want to have destroyed? Britain as the world's top superpower of the era was destroyed by having to come to the aid of Belgium in August 1914. Unintended consequences are a bitch.

multjoy 3y ago
Isolationism fell out of favour in WW2, no matter how hard the GOP try to bring it back.
- jjackson5324 3y ago
  Imagine having your mind so melted by politics that you’re supporting Boeing & Lockheed’s bullshit lobbying to get their revenue up.
- techdragon 3y ago
  WW2 killed Isolationism… and the funeral was when Nixon went to China.
ambichook 3y ago
the US' primary export is security. you realise this yes? its why it has a massive expeditionary force and why NATO exists in the first place. isolationism would very rapidly have the effect of tanking US relevance on the global stage
- jjackson5324 3y ago
  There’s nothing to “realise” because you just made that up. It’s hilarious how you can be condescending and wrong. “Isolationism” is completely different from not wanting the US to get entangled in Europe’s BS.
- pkaye 3y ago
  What other countries export security?
  - techdragon 3y ago
    The two I can think of offhand are: China is definitely starting to do this as part of its wider geopolitical ambitions under Xi. Australia has started to dip its toes into providing security to small pacific island countries, it’s an interesting case too since while they can promise their own security resources, due to Australia’s deep ties with the USA via multiple defence and military related treaties, Australia is to extend the “selling security” business metaphor, starting to sell security as a “Value Added Reseller”… effectively they offer the immediate response time of a smaller business partner, with the added benefit of having having an even larger supplier that can be turned to if things are too big for your direct supplier to deal with… the catch is the same in business as in geopolitics however… to what degree your reseller is able to supply their own resources and call on upstream vendors for support, can vary greatly depending on what you need and when you need it…
avmich 3y ago
> Britain as the world's top superpower of the era was destroyed by having to come to the aid of Belgium in August 1914. Unintended consequences are a bitch. Interesting viewpoint. So if Britain wouldn't have to come to the aid of Belgium in August 1914 it would still be the world's top superpower... Interesting.
- simonblack 3y ago
  it would still be the world's top superpower... Interesting. Extremely unlikely, but possible. The great impetus to the US being 'top dog' was the huge profits the US made from World War 1 where all of the British and French money went. Without WW1, WW2 might not have happened the way it did either. That leaves a slowly growing US that might have been less 'exceptional' and more long-lived. More like the much longer British rise and fall over several centuries than a short-lived one-century-long rise and fall.

multjoy 3y ago

Isolationism fell out of favour in WW2, no matter how hard the GOP try to bring it back.

jjackson5324 3y ago
Imagine having your mind so melted by politics that you’re supporting Boeing & Lockheed’s bullshit lobbying to get their revenue up.
techdragon 3y ago
WW2 killed Isolationism… and the funeral was when Nixon went to China.

ambichook 3y ago

the US' primary export is security. you realise this yes? its why it has a massive expeditionary force and why NATO exists in the first place. isolationism would very rapidly have the effect of tanking US relevance on the global stage

jjackson5324 3y ago
There’s nothing to “realise” because you just made that up. It’s hilarious how you can be condescending and wrong. “Isolationism” is completely different from not wanting the US to get entangled in Europe’s BS.
pkaye 3y ago
What other countries export security?
- techdragon 3y ago
  The two I can think of offhand are: China is definitely starting to do this as part of its wider geopolitical ambitions under Xi. Australia has started to dip its toes into providing security to small pacific island countries, it’s an interesting case too since while they can promise their own security resources, due to Australia’s deep ties with the USA via multiple defence and military related treaties, Australia is to extend the “selling security” business metaphor, starting to sell security as a “Value Added Reseller”… effectively they offer the immediate response time of a smaller business partner, with the added benefit of having having an even larger supplier that can be turned to if things are too big for your direct supplier to deal with… the catch is the same in business as in geopolitics however… to what degree your reseller is able to supply their own resources and call on upstream vendors for support, can vary greatly depending on what you need and when you need it…

avmich 3y ago

> Britain as the world's top superpower of the era was destroyed by having to come to the aid of Belgium in August 1914. Unintended consequences are a bitch. Interesting viewpoint. So if Britain wouldn't have to come to the aid of Belgium in August 1914 it would still be the world's top superpower... Interesting.

simonblack 3y ago
it would still be the world's top superpower... Interesting. Extremely unlikely, but possible. The great impetus to the US being 'top dog' was the huge profits the US made from World War 1 where all of the British and French money went. Without WW1, WW2 might not have happened the way it did either. That leaves a slowly growing US that might have been less 'exceptional' and more long-lived. More like the much longer British rise and fall over several centuries than a short-lived one-century-long rise and fall.