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Also: https://github.com/supertuxkart/stk-code https://github.com/supertuxkart/stk-code

by kcb 3y ago

kej 3y ago
SuperTuxKart runs well on Android, and it will let you use the accelerometers to steer (so you just tilt the whole device like a steering wheel) which gives it a feeling a little like the Wii version of Mario Kart.
- freedomben 3y ago
  Yep, even works with controllers! My kids will play this together using controllers on the Nvidia Shield, and it runs great. They have an absolute blast!
colinsane 3y ago
OpenStreetMaps x SuperTuxKart has got to be one of my favorite hidden niches: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/SuperTuxKart https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/SuperTuxKart
Intralexical 3y ago
Unfortunately, the three people who programmed the vast majority of modern SuperTuxKart and managed the community were bullied out of the project a couple years ago. [1] The new team lead was somebody who seemed to have a habit of stonewalling [2] ideas and code contributions from both community members and the dev team, talking down about "newbie-tier players" with "zero skill", and [3] hyperfixating on "balance" (in what is fundamentally a kids' game) without room for fun or discussion. The lead artist, who made basically all the tracks that are worth looking at, and whom I'd worked with now and then to get a couple contributions included, eventually disappeared too. Naturally, commits, contributors, and blog posts/updates are now at an all-time low. [4] So, don't let your group dynamic be taken over by domineering personalities, I guess, is the lesson. 1: https://blog.supertuxkart.net/2019/05/my-departure-from-supertuxkart.html https://blog.supertuxkart.net/2019/05/my-departure-from-supe... 2: https://forum.freegamedev.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8086&p=77880#p77880 https://forum.freegamedev.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8086&p=77... 3: https://github.com/supertuxkart/stk-code/issues/3888#issuecomment-487806977 https://github.com/supertuxkart/stk-code/issues/3888#issueco... 4: https://openhub.net/p/supertuxkart https://openhub.net/p/supertuxkart
- nhggfu 3y ago
  interesting, and GREAT advice!
- hnfong 3y ago
  From your [1] it looks like the original dev(s?) left because their goal was accomplished? I'm confused because reputable dev leads getting "bullied out of a project" seems like a 2000s thing which shouldn't exist after the proliferation of git where the repo is in theory decentralized, so nobody could without "commit access" like the CVS days of old. When the original contributor left because they thought the game did what they wanted it to do, I'm not sure it's really a major sticking point if the new leader decided to be conservative about things... not that I have a stake in it or whatever.
  - Intralexical 3y ago
    > From your [1] it looks like the original dev(s?) left because their goal was accomplished? Hiker explicitly says that his reason for leaving isn't because his goal was accomplished: > > To be completely honest, the main reason for my departure was not that my goal of online races was reached. It is a matter or principle and professionalism. From my point of view a big change has gone through the development team, when new members were added and older members left. Let’s just say that the newer team members preferred to pursue a faster-paced development style with fewer reviews, less documentation, less oversight and a reduced need for consensus, and that our differences in approach could not be reconciled. This was further discussed on Reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/bpb44y/supertuxkart_team_leader_leaves_after_13_years/ https://old.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/bpb44y/supert... The link submitter above themselves had done a GSoC with the original team, and on the situation and the bit quoted above, all he had to say was ":/". > When the original contributor left because they thought the game did what they wanted it to do, Again, explicitly not what happened. > I'm confused because reputable dev leads getting "bullied out of a project" seems like a 2000s thing which shouldn't exist after the proliferation of git where the repo is in theory decentralized, so nobody could without "commit access" like the CVS days of old. > > […] I'm not sure it's really a major sticking point if the new leader decided to be conservative about things... It sounds to me like you are confused because you expect a technical solution to prevent social problems. Obviously, that doesn't really work, bullies still exist, and even if you fork it's still seen as a big, stressful, hostile action that most conflict-averse people would prefer to avoid doing. From what I've seen, the new devs didn't decide to be uniformly conservative about things— They still posted on the forums with big plans now and then— But it's more that they compulsively let only their own contributions and drastic changes through.

Also: https://github.com/supertuxkart/stk-code https://github.com/supertuxkart/stk-code

by kcb 3y ago

Also: https://github.com/supertuxkart/stk-code https://github.com/supertuxkart/stk-code

kej 3y ago

SuperTuxKart runs well on Android, and it will let you use the accelerometers to steer (so you just tilt the whole device like a steering wheel) which gives it a feeling a little like the Wii version of Mario Kart.

freedomben 3y ago
Yep, even works with controllers! My kids will play this together using controllers on the Nvidia Shield, and it runs great. They have an absolute blast!

colinsane 3y ago

OpenStreetMaps x SuperTuxKart has got to be one of my favorite hidden niches: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/SuperTuxKart https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/SuperTuxKart

Intralexical 3y ago

Unfortunately, the three people who programmed the vast majority of modern SuperTuxKart and managed the community were bullied out of the project a couple years ago. [1] The new team lead was somebody who seemed to have a habit of stonewalling [2] ideas and code contributions from both community members and the dev team, talking down about "newbie-tier players" with "zero skill", and [3] hyperfixating on "balance" (in what is fundamentally a kids' game) without room for fun or discussion. The lead artist, who made basically all the tracks that are worth looking at, and whom I'd worked with now and then to get a couple contributions included, eventually disappeared too. Naturally, commits, contributors, and blog posts/updates are now at an all-time low. [4] So, don't let your group dynamic be taken over by domineering personalities, I guess, is the lesson. 1: https://blog.supertuxkart.net/2019/05/my-departure-from-supertuxkart.html https://blog.supertuxkart.net/2019/05/my-departure-from-supe... 2: https://forum.freegamedev.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8086&p=77880#p77880 https://forum.freegamedev.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8086&p=77... 3: https://github.com/supertuxkart/stk-code/issues/3888#issuecomment-487806977 https://github.com/supertuxkart/stk-code/issues/3888#issueco... 4: https://openhub.net/p/supertuxkart https://openhub.net/p/supertuxkart

nhggfu 3y ago
interesting, and GREAT advice!
hnfong 3y ago
From your [1] it looks like the original dev(s?) left because their goal was accomplished? I'm confused because reputable dev leads getting "bullied out of a project" seems like a 2000s thing which shouldn't exist after the proliferation of git where the repo is in theory decentralized, so nobody could without "commit access" like the CVS days of old. When the original contributor left because they thought the game did what they wanted it to do, I'm not sure it's really a major sticking point if the new leader decided to be conservative about things... not that I have a stake in it or whatever.
- Intralexical 3y ago
  > From your [1] it looks like the original dev(s?) left because their goal was accomplished? Hiker explicitly says that his reason for leaving isn't because his goal was accomplished: > > To be completely honest, the main reason for my departure was not that my goal of online races was reached. It is a matter or principle and professionalism. From my point of view a big change has gone through the development team, when new members were added and older members left. Let’s just say that the newer team members preferred to pursue a faster-paced development style with fewer reviews, less documentation, less oversight and a reduced need for consensus, and that our differences in approach could not be reconciled. This was further discussed on Reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/bpb44y/supertuxkart_team_leader_leaves_after_13_years/ https://old.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/bpb44y/supert... The link submitter above themselves had done a GSoC with the original team, and on the situation and the bit quoted above, all he had to say was ":/". > When the original contributor left because they thought the game did what they wanted it to do, Again, explicitly not what happened. > I'm confused because reputable dev leads getting "bullied out of a project" seems like a 2000s thing which shouldn't exist after the proliferation of git where the repo is in theory decentralized, so nobody could without "commit access" like the CVS days of old. > > […] I'm not sure it's really a major sticking point if the new leader decided to be conservative about things... It sounds to me like you are confused because you expect a technical solution to prevent social problems. Obviously, that doesn't really work, bullies still exist, and even if you fork it's still seen as a big, stressful, hostile action that most conflict-averse people would prefer to avoid doing. From what I've seen, the new devs didn't decide to be uniformly conservative about things— They still posted on the forums with big plans now and then— But it's more that they compulsively let only their own contributions and drastic changes through.