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> I hate the team Can you link to where you have interacted with them personally, so that we can judge whether your hatred is justified?

ninetyninenine 3y ago
By team I mean team culture and general go culture. And I don't mean attitudes or treatment. I mean design philosophy. Just to be clear. No links just look at some go libraries. Many libraries feel like it's designed for java.
- kjksf 3y ago
  I have used lots of Go libraries. I even wrote some. Your opinion here is just bizarre because typical Go code is as far away from typical (bad) Java code as you can get. Your typical Go library doesn't have FactoryFactory classes, doesn't overuse interfaces, doesn't have dependency injection, doesn't have callstacks 20 frames deep etc. So yeah, I would like to know which Go libraries specifically you're referring to because I just don't see that in the popular Go packages.
  - hkpack 3y ago
    To be honest, I saw a plenty of factory of factories in go on top of dependency injection systems with everything is an interfaces nightmares for simple libraries. Some people need to justify their salaries with the complexity for nothing.
- hkpack 3y ago
  A lot of go developers are coming from Java and so write in Java style. That’s a problem of itself. To understand idiomatic go, it is better to look at its own standard library source codes.
dijit 3y ago
Maybe hate the team is strong, but there's excellent tools that have a really offputting team around them. I feel this way about Rust. Great language, fantastic tools, but the surrounding culture is really off-putting. You can disagree with the parent (and I do), but it's not like you need to directly interact with a team to dislike them if you disagree with their public statements, actions or controversies.
- ninetyninenine 3y ago
  Yeah I meant I hate my teams design philosophy and I feel most teams that are go centric are like this. Hate was too strong of a word and that was my mistake.
  - Mawr 3y ago
    It wasn't, you're just being hit with the standard obnoxiously disingenuous HN responses. It's very clear what you meant by 'hate' in your post.

ninetyninenine 3y ago

By team I mean team culture and general go culture. And I don't mean attitudes or treatment. I mean design philosophy. Just to be clear. No links just look at some go libraries. Many libraries feel like it's designed for java.

kjksf 3y ago
I have used lots of Go libraries. I even wrote some. Your opinion here is just bizarre because typical Go code is as far away from typical (bad) Java code as you can get. Your typical Go library doesn't have FactoryFactory classes, doesn't overuse interfaces, doesn't have dependency injection, doesn't have callstacks 20 frames deep etc. So yeah, I would like to know which Go libraries specifically you're referring to because I just don't see that in the popular Go packages.
- hkpack 3y ago
  To be honest, I saw a plenty of factory of factories in go on top of dependency injection systems with everything is an interfaces nightmares for simple libraries. Some people need to justify their salaries with the complexity for nothing.
hkpack 3y ago
A lot of go developers are coming from Java and so write in Java style. That’s a problem of itself. To understand idiomatic go, it is better to look at its own standard library source codes.

dijit 3y ago

Maybe hate the team is strong, but there's excellent tools that have a really offputting team around them. I feel this way about Rust. Great language, fantastic tools, but the surrounding culture is really off-putting. You can disagree with the parent (and I do), but it's not like you need to directly interact with a team to dislike them if you disagree with their public statements, actions or controversies.

ninetyninenine 3y ago
Yeah I meant I hate my teams design philosophy and I feel most teams that are go centric are like this. Hate was too strong of a word and that was my mistake.
- Mawr 3y ago
  It wasn't, you're just being hit with the standard obnoxiously disingenuous HN responses. It's very clear what you meant by 'hate' in your post.