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>to make social media itself inhospitable I see nothing wrong with that. Social media has done nothing but harm its users, and people that know its users (or:

by vik0 3y ago

>to make social media itself inhospitable I see nothing wrong with that. Social media has done nothing but harm its users, and people that know its users (or: everybody)

halfmatthalfcat 3y ago
> Social media has done nothing but harm its users Nothing? I don't think it's that cut and dry. While there has been harm, no doubt, there has been a lot of positives too (maintaining connections, thoughtful conversations, etc).
NavinF 3y ago
Then why did you write this comment on HN (an example of social media)?
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carlosjobim 3y ago
Then why are you writing here on this social media and harming people? Social media is such a big part of modern communications, that arguing against it is like arguing against telephone lines or the printing press. There's a lot to criticise the owner companies for, including how social media can harm people and infamously promote and accelerate genocide, such as Facebook is accused of having done in Myanmar. But the same accusations can be levied against any means of communication and publishing technology.
notaustinpowers 3y ago
Thanks for your comment here on the social media site, Hacker News! I think we have to reorient ourselves on what counts as social media. It's not just Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. It's forums like Hacker News, it's comment sections on your favorite blogs you frequent. It's the products available on Etsy or a small creator's personal Shopify store. Free speech isn't just about photos and text, it covers all forms of expression.
- kmeisthax 3y ago
  We used to just call these forums. Social media is a subset of forum where the posts are presented in a personally curated timeline of some kind.
  - Goronmon 3y ago
    I would argue forums are just a subset of social media. "Social media" being the high level umbrella for platforms where users interact. Differentiated from platforms which are "read-only".
vik0 3y ago
I knew I would get the replies that I got. It reminds me of this meme: https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/036/647/Screen_Shot_2021-03-01_at_2.28.39_PM.png https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/036/647/Scr...
- halfmatthalfcat 3y ago
  And yet you are still here, posting memes. Are we just stuck in a loop forever?

by vik0 3y ago

>to make social media itself inhospitable I see nothing wrong with that. Social media has done nothing but harm its users, and people that know its users (or: everybody)

halfmatthalfcat 3y ago

> Social media has done nothing but harm its users Nothing? I don't think it's that cut and dry. While there has been harm, no doubt, there has been a lot of positives too (maintaining connections, thoughtful conversations, etc).

NavinF 3y ago

Then why did you write this comment on HN (an example of social media)?

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carlosjobim 3y ago

Then why are you writing here on this social media and harming people? Social media is such a big part of modern communications, that arguing against it is like arguing against telephone lines or the printing press. There's a lot to criticise the owner companies for, including how social media can harm people and infamously promote and accelerate genocide, such as Facebook is accused of having done in Myanmar. But the same accusations can be levied against any means of communication and publishing technology.

notaustinpowers 3y ago

Thanks for your comment here on the social media site, Hacker News! I think we have to reorient ourselves on what counts as social media. It's not just Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. It's forums like Hacker News, it's comment sections on your favorite blogs you frequent. It's the products available on Etsy or a small creator's personal Shopify store. Free speech isn't just about photos and text, it covers all forms of expression.

kmeisthax 3y ago
We used to just call these forums. Social media is a subset of forum where the posts are presented in a personally curated timeline of some kind.
- Goronmon 3y ago
  I would argue forums are just a subset of social media. "Social media" being the high level umbrella for platforms where users interact. Differentiated from platforms which are "read-only".

vik0 3y ago

I knew I would get the replies that I got. It reminds me of this meme: https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/036/647/Screen_Shot_2021-03-01_at_2.28.39_PM.png https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/036/647/Scr...

halfmatthalfcat 3y ago
And yet you are still here, posting memes. Are we just stuck in a loop forever?