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Well, there is an existence proof by the lack of PWA adoption on Android and that companies aren’t forgoing the expense of creating native Android apps, that PW

Well, there is an existence proof by the lack of PWA adoption on Android and that companies aren’t forgoing the expense of creating native Android apps, that PWAs aren’t a “reasonable alternative” today on either platform.

DANmode 3y ago
Every single person I know with an Android phone has a webapp bookmark on their homescreen. Your experiences are not everyone else's.
- scarface_74 3y ago
  So you are going to compare “every person you know” to the fact that hardly any company or app developer is exclusively creating an iOS app and telling Android users just use the web since PWA support is so good?
  - DANmode 3y ago
    You really don't get how the human emotion plays into this, huh? Happy to break it down. iOS user installs your service's app. Android user wants to then install one-click Google Play Store, feels like a second-class citizen if they're instead directed to find a URL to log in, forced to create their own bookmark.... By focusing marketing on the App Store, and "Apps", which led to those goofy badges (App Store, Play Store, now Samsung/Amazon App Store sometimes), Apple made native apps "the thing". If you don't have those badges on your site or in your ad, you're not signaling you're "real". But it's just a social trend, at the end of the day. We can make the app's functionality the same, or better, wherever we want. Even in Safari gulp.
    - scarface_74 3y ago
      So you’re saying that the PWA experience isn’t as good as a native app and conversion isn’t as high even on Android….
      - DANmode 3y ago
        Neither platform has really given the concept a fair shake, though the Android and Google side are much fairer. I'm saying there's adoption of these features regardless. Because it's still better than not having those three status pages as homescreen bookmarks.
    - iondependent 3y ago
      Link, bookmark, and to home screen not needed. Pwas can be installed from the store... Native has zero arguments except if ya really need something the web can't do or if you're a bad dev.

DANmode 3y ago

Every single person I know with an Android phone has a webapp bookmark on their homescreen. Your experiences are not everyone else's.

scarface_74 3y ago
So you are going to compare “every person you know” to the fact that hardly any company or app developer is exclusively creating an iOS app and telling Android users just use the web since PWA support is so good?
- DANmode 3y ago
  You really don't get how the human emotion plays into this, huh? Happy to break it down. iOS user installs your service's app. Android user wants to then install one-click Google Play Store, feels like a second-class citizen if they're instead directed to find a URL to log in, forced to create their own bookmark.... By focusing marketing on the App Store, and "Apps", which led to those goofy badges (App Store, Play Store, now Samsung/Amazon App Store sometimes), Apple made native apps "the thing". If you don't have those badges on your site or in your ad, you're not signaling you're "real". But it's just a social trend, at the end of the day. We can make the app's functionality the same, or better, wherever we want. Even in Safari gulp.
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    So you’re saying that the PWA experience isn’t as good as a native app and conversion isn’t as high even on Android….
    - DANmode 3y ago
      Neither platform has really given the concept a fair shake, though the Android and Google side are much fairer. I'm saying there's adoption of these features regardless. Because it's still better than not having those three status pages as homescreen bookmarks.
  - iondependent 3y ago
    Link, bookmark, and to home screen not needed. Pwas can be installed from the store... Native has zero arguments except if ya really need something the web can't do or if you're a bad dev.