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Why did the engineers allow this? They had no power? Why? I have a general sense that many engineers take the position of "tell me what to do and I will only as

Why did the engineers allow this? They had no power? Why? I have a general sense that many engineers take the position of "tell me what to do and I will only ask why X times." I think its a self-serving but ultimately shortsighted position like a tragedy of the commons. Did engineers actually push back on these decisions? "I walk" etc? At some point a man needs to be willing to go back to the dirt with a hoe in hand when his principles are subverted. I get it, you can find yourself in a position of a slow moving landslide and have to deal with things related to sunk costs in a boiling bucket and your companion is only a frog. Still, where does this lead in the long term? Engineers should see themselves as the brick and mortar of a nation not some extractive force in a financialized environment. What are you leaving your(the) children? I was reading a story about the decisions made by miners in UP Michigan in 1912. You know what they did when shit sucked? They walked and did something else for 2 years. They let the equipment rot with intent going as far as to coerce the machine maintainers to cease and desist with machine hibernation procedures.

dmoy 3y ago
> I was reading a story about the decisions made by miners in UP Michigan in 1912. You know what they did when shit sucked? They walked and did something else for 2 years. They let the equipment rot with intent going Jesus, or what the miners in the Appalachians did in 1912. After the mining company refused to deal with a unionized workforce, they were replaced by armed guards. The miners got kicked out of there housing, etc. So in response, the miners formed a militia and went to war with the company, like literal war with guns. They got steamrolled by the state guard. But eventually that got them to negotiate a 9 hour workday. Then they did it again 10 years later, except that time they got steamrolled by the US military, and then the feds threw hundreds in prison for treason.

dmoy 3y ago

> I was reading a story about the decisions made by miners in UP Michigan in 1912. You know what they did when shit sucked? They walked and did something else for 2 years. They let the equipment rot with intent going Jesus, or what the miners in the Appalachians did in 1912. After the mining company refused to deal with a unionized workforce, they were replaced by armed guards. The miners got kicked out of there housing, etc. So in response, the miners formed a militia and went to war with the company, like literal war with guns. They got steamrolled by the state guard. But eventually that got them to negotiate a 9 hour workday. Then they did it again 10 years later, except that time they got steamrolled by the US military, and then the feds threw hundreds in prison for treason.