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Ultimately this is something that needs to be understood by lawmakers. Web technology is increasingly designed to make this kind of meddling harder, not easier
by noodlesUK 3y ago
Ultimately this is something that needs to be understood by lawmakers.
Web technology is increasingly designed to make this kind of meddling harder, not easier, for the sake of user security and counter surveillance across the web.
There is no magic bullet for stopping piracy. The anti piracy companies will happily burn down the world to support their business model. There are always tradeoffs, and there are always ways of pirating things, because there will inevitably be a guy willing to point a camcorder at his TV screen.
I think most people here believe that we shouldn’t break the web so that some anti piracy companies can sell their tools.
If people want to investigate crimes, it has never been easier. The reality is that the public is not interested in collectively fining everybody who watches football on a streaming site. Instead we get garbage that breaks people’s internet so that it’s a little bit harder to pirate things.
- rvnx 3y agoThe best to do is to encourage broader access to legal offers (and support the good ones!). Like it has happened with Netflix, or with Spotify, and even YouTube (which used to be a major illegal streaming website, before signing partnerships with most of the music majors). Users who don't have money would continue to do piracy anyway, and the others pick convenience. In few countries (Japan, France, Slovenia, etc) it's even mandatory to fund the public TV. -> If you own a screen, even just a computer, they consider you may be able to watch TV with it -> Instead, you could decide to allocate this money to a private streaming platform (12 EUR / month for France!) (it's a plague to be forced to fund TV shows you never watch, so better allocate somewhere else) Regarding the Italians, I understand in some ways why they decided to block the IPs. The host of the mirror of the content (Cloudflare) doesn't do what they ask, and they are +/- out of the Italian jurisdiction so one of the most reasonable solution they could do was to block the most specific host they could find. The most likely action is that Cloudflare is going to migrate: 1) legit customers to other IPs 2) high-risk customers to specific batches of IPs and then this is going to resolve the side-effects.
- bondant 3y agoThis tax doesn't exists any more in France, it has been removed at the end of 2022. https://www.gouvernement.fr/actualite/fin-de-rideau-pour-la-redevance-audiovisuelle https://www.gouvernement.fr/actualite/fin-de-rideau-pour-la-...
- rvnx 3y agoWow some good news I’d say :) thanks for sharing !
- BlueTemplar 3y agoAlso it used to depend on the screen having a tuner, with even some companies advertising that they could remove the tuner from your pre-existing TV !
- rvnx 3y agohttps://www.csa.fr/Mes-services/Foire-aux-questions/Informer/Les-services-interactifs/Je-recois-la-television-par-internet.-Suis-je-contraint-de-payer-la-redevance-si-je-recois-uniquement-la-television-par-ce-moyen https://www.csa.fr/Mes-services/Foire-aux-questions/Informer... It seems that Internet was also considered as "potential to watch TV", like you can watch TV online, and/or through services provided by set-top-boxes like Freebox.
- BlueTemplar 3y agoIIRC that's a later evolution.
- joshstrange 3y ago> The most likely action is that Cloudflare is going to migrate: > 1) legit customers to other IPs > 2) high-risk customers to specific batches of IPs Or they could tell Italy to jump in a lake (maybe a sea?). If you want to make dumb decisions with your country's internet I don't see why other people should bend over backwards to support your stupidity. If I were CF I'd consider monitoring for any of my IPs being blocked and then migrate all Italian government/etc sites using CF to that IP.