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Elon fan boy here. My Tesla has been a pretty solid car compared to any Crysler or GM car that I've owned before.

by fasteddie31003 3y ago

fkyoureadthedoc 3y ago
You should try owning a Toyota
- psunavy03 3y ago
  . . . who had their own major scandal about self-accelerating vehicles.
  - idontpost 3y ago
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  - peterfirefly 3y ago
    Which mysteriously only affected the US -- while the Toyota's remained extremely safe cars there.
cyanydeez 3y ago
yeah, you should've switched to any number of japanese imports.
- dahart 3y ago
  I used to think the same, but I’m not sure sure anymore after having a Honda CRV completely die on me last year when it was ~5 years old, well maintained, and lightly driven. It may have been the electronics design that prevented any mechanics from being able to diagnose what was wrong. There was a recall on the air compressor that might have contributed. Can’t be sure, but the electrical systems all stopped functioning due to an unknown problem. We tried to have it serviced over and over again, paid to replace many parts that were not the cause and did not fix anything, only to have the issue persist and then one day (on the way to the shop for another service) the timing belt melted and took out a number of other parts with it. After $5k in repairs, it ran fine for a few weeks and then the electronics shut down again over an unknown problem. Honda at least recognized this was design failure and ended up covering some of the repair costs, but I couldn’t get rid of this lemon fast enough. Personally, I suspect we’ve recently entered a new age of cars that depend on electronics much much more heavily than before, and that we do not have great data yet on the reliability of these software systems, and that Japanese mechanical engineering advantages of yesteryear don’t necessarily mean they have good software, nor does it compete with bad software.
coliveira 3y ago
Well, if you compare to Chrysler or GM, anything will do.

Elon fan boy here. My Tesla has been a pretty solid car compared to any Crysler or GM car that I've owned before.

fkyoureadthedoc 3y ago

You should try owning a Toyota

psunavy03 3y ago
. . . who had their own major scandal about self-accelerating vehicles.
- idontpost 3y ago
  [dead]
- peterfirefly 3y ago
  Which mysteriously only affected the US -- while the Toyota's remained extremely safe cars there.

cyanydeez 3y ago

yeah, you should've switched to any number of japanese imports.

dahart 3y ago
I used to think the same, but I’m not sure sure anymore after having a Honda CRV completely die on me last year when it was ~5 years old, well maintained, and lightly driven. It may have been the electronics design that prevented any mechanics from being able to diagnose what was wrong. There was a recall on the air compressor that might have contributed. Can’t be sure, but the electrical systems all stopped functioning due to an unknown problem. We tried to have it serviced over and over again, paid to replace many parts that were not the cause and did not fix anything, only to have the issue persist and then one day (on the way to the shop for another service) the timing belt melted and took out a number of other parts with it. After $5k in repairs, it ran fine for a few weeks and then the electronics shut down again over an unknown problem. Honda at least recognized this was design failure and ended up covering some of the repair costs, but I couldn’t get rid of this lemon fast enough. Personally, I suspect we’ve recently entered a new age of cars that depend on electronics much much more heavily than before, and that we do not have great data yet on the reliability of these software systems, and that Japanese mechanical engineering advantages of yesteryear don’t necessarily mean they have good software, nor does it compete with bad software.

coliveira 3y ago

Well, if you compare to Chrysler or GM, anything will do.