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Boom is taking a Tesla approach to aerospace focusing on high end first with a Concord replacement. I am sure there are others working their way up the value ch

by wand3r 3y ago

Boom is taking a Tesla approach to aerospace focusing on high end first with a Concord replacement. I am sure there are others working their way up the value chain

hef19898 3y ago
Boom still isn't dead yet?
- ghaff 3y ago
  Boom has all these fans on sites like this--and to be clear I wish Boom well--who also wouldn't consider spending $10K for a comfortable lie-flat seating flight from the US to Europe.
- notatoad 3y ago
  Boom won’t die until the saudis give up on supersonic flight as a method to increase the demand for oil.
consumer451 3y ago
Has Boom found a new engine supplier yet?
- buildsjets 3y ago
  Every major and minor engine manufacturer punted, so now they're making their own. https://boomsupersonic.com/symphony https://boomsupersonic.com/symphony Hired an experienced propulsion guy away from Boeing to run the show. https://boomsupersonic.com/team-members/scott-powell https://boomsupersonic.com/team-members/scott-powell They are not going to be able to do it, my opinion. There are very few people in the world who have deep experience doing 3D CFD on supersonic turbofans, I've talked to a few of them and none have been headhunted. The will need good analysis work, they are asking for a LOT out of a single stage fan. They certainly will not have the metallurgical research and manufacturing technologies of the engine manufacturers to use. But best of luck to Scott, his Porsche GT3 was getting kind of old and needs to be upgraded to the latest model.
  - ghaff 3y ago
    I wish them the best but, even if they can get the technology to more or less work, the economics and regulatory environment are pretty tough. At the end of the day, it's almost certainly going to be an expensive airline ticket and even if United was (rather inexplicably) touting Boom in their advertising, I'm not sure how many customers there are to pay out-of-pocket for supersonic flights that are likely to be a premium over current top-end seating. I'd love to zip over to Europe a lot faster from the East Coast of the US. But I'm not going to pay as much to save time as I would for the rest of my trip.
  - hef19898 3y ago
    If they hired a propulsion guy from Boeing to develop a new super-sonic engine, Boom fucked up. Boeing, same for Airbus, doesn't develop or built engines, let alone super sonic ones. But dor sure, said Boeing hire will be royaly paid for his service, good for them. And good for Boom, a prominent Boeing hire will make fundraising so much easier. But sure, as if building a new commercial airframe manufacturer isn't hard enough, becoming a new jet engine manufacturer on top of that is a winning strategy...
    - buildsjets 3y ago
      In the specific case of Mr. Powell, I would agree that his skill set is primarily in the management of procuring and integrating of new engines from engine vendors into new airframes, and in the detail design of engine accessories and externals, and he is not experienced in the design of internal turbo machinery. And that's where the high risk for Boom is. However you would be completely mistaken to think that Boeing, and Airbus, and my friends down there with Embraer, do not have people who actively pursue and develop the core technologies needed to develop, analyze, and test all types of turbine engines, even if they do not result in market products. It is a necessary tool in order to evaluate offerings from the different competitive engine vendors. And at the senior level of engineering, there is basically a revolving door between the airframe manufacturers, the engine manufacturers, and a few of the high-level engineering focused airlines. People are constantly jumping around between them, there is a lot of cross-pollination going on.

by wand3r 3y ago

Boom is taking a Tesla approach to aerospace focusing on high end first with a Concord replacement. I am sure there are others working their way up the value chain

hef19898 3y ago

Boom still isn't dead yet?

ghaff 3y ago
Boom has all these fans on sites like this--and to be clear I wish Boom well--who also wouldn't consider spending $10K for a comfortable lie-flat seating flight from the US to Europe.
notatoad 3y ago
Boom won’t die until the saudis give up on supersonic flight as a method to increase the demand for oil.

consumer451 3y ago

Has Boom found a new engine supplier yet?

buildsjets 3y ago
Every major and minor engine manufacturer punted, so now they're making their own. https://boomsupersonic.com/symphony https://boomsupersonic.com/symphony Hired an experienced propulsion guy away from Boeing to run the show. https://boomsupersonic.com/team-members/scott-powell https://boomsupersonic.com/team-members/scott-powell They are not going to be able to do it, my opinion. There are very few people in the world who have deep experience doing 3D CFD on supersonic turbofans, I've talked to a few of them and none have been headhunted. The will need good analysis work, they are asking for a LOT out of a single stage fan. They certainly will not have the metallurgical research and manufacturing technologies of the engine manufacturers to use. But best of luck to Scott, his Porsche GT3 was getting kind of old and needs to be upgraded to the latest model.
- ghaff 3y ago
  I wish them the best but, even if they can get the technology to more or less work, the economics and regulatory environment are pretty tough. At the end of the day, it's almost certainly going to be an expensive airline ticket and even if United was (rather inexplicably) touting Boom in their advertising, I'm not sure how many customers there are to pay out-of-pocket for supersonic flights that are likely to be a premium over current top-end seating. I'd love to zip over to Europe a lot faster from the East Coast of the US. But I'm not going to pay as much to save time as I would for the rest of my trip.
- hef19898 3y ago
  If they hired a propulsion guy from Boeing to develop a new super-sonic engine, Boom fucked up. Boeing, same for Airbus, doesn't develop or built engines, let alone super sonic ones. But dor sure, said Boeing hire will be royaly paid for his service, good for them. And good for Boom, a prominent Boeing hire will make fundraising so much easier. But sure, as if building a new commercial airframe manufacturer isn't hard enough, becoming a new jet engine manufacturer on top of that is a winning strategy...
  - buildsjets 3y ago
    In the specific case of Mr. Powell, I would agree that his skill set is primarily in the management of procuring and integrating of new engines from engine vendors into new airframes, and in the detail design of engine accessories and externals, and he is not experienced in the design of internal turbo machinery. And that's where the high risk for Boom is. However you would be completely mistaken to think that Boeing, and Airbus, and my friends down there with Embraer, do not have people who actively pursue and develop the core technologies needed to develop, analyze, and test all types of turbine engines, even if they do not result in market products. It is a necessary tool in order to evaluate offerings from the different competitive engine vendors. And at the senior level of engineering, there is basically a revolving door between the airframe manufacturers, the engine manufacturers, and a few of the high-level engineering focused airlines. People are constantly jumping around between them, there is a lot of cross-pollination going on.