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How does a 60 TB in a day peak for a site that previously never crossed the free tier threshhold not qualify as "attack pattern"? This is a static site. To rea

How does a 60 TB in a day peak for a site that previously never crossed the free tier threshhold not qualify as "attack pattern"? This is a static site. To reach that sort of bandwidth out of nowhere you'd need to publish the blueprint for a teleportation machine

hnfong 3y ago
To be fair, these days, things can become viral literally overnight. That said, instead of depending on unreliable heuristics, they should just allow an option to change the behavior. The "current policy" to charge small sites on the free tier thousands of dollars instead of just throttling/shutting down the traffic is really predatory.
- quickthrower2 3y ago
  60TB with each request for 1Mb say would be 60000000 visitors. So guess this is possible but hell of unlikely.
  - Izkata 3y ago
    "static site" doesn't necessarily mean "small". It would be easy to go way over 1Mb with a couple of pictures.
    - frontalier 3y ago
      at 60MB it is still one million downloads
      - krick 3y ago
        I'm not trying to justify netlify, because it's pretty obvious all cloud providers have vile intentions here (even though they pretend otherwise): it's obvious that total majority of use cases for such platforms are toy or small-scale projects, and literally everyone in this market would prefer their website being shut down, rather than getting $100K (or even $5K) bill, BUT… 1 million downloads (= visits) is nothing for "going viral overnight"
- brnt 3y ago
  Anyone exceeding their plan with a factor of 10 or hell, let's make it a 100, almost certainly didn't anticipate it and thus isn't prepared for the kind of bill that apparently comes with it (or even knows that there would be a bill). On top of that, there currently is no way to state such rules up front! Moverover, according to their own explanation, it was almost certainly not organic traffic! I wager the vast majority of people in the free tier would gladly cap their traffic at the (generous!) bandwidth offered by Netlify. Even to the majority in paid tiers, 100k bills where there previously was none must be unwanted and unintended. I mean, we all know dark patterns are a thing...
- pants2 3y ago
  Most people won't want to fork over $100k to support a hobby project that's gone viral either.

hnfong 3y ago

To be fair, these days, things can become viral literally overnight. That said, instead of depending on unreliable heuristics, they should just allow an option to change the behavior. The "current policy" to charge small sites on the free tier thousands of dollars instead of just throttling/shutting down the traffic is really predatory.

quickthrower2 3y ago
60TB with each request for 1Mb say would be 60000000 visitors. So guess this is possible but hell of unlikely.
- Izkata 3y ago
  "static site" doesn't necessarily mean "small". It would be easy to go way over 1Mb with a couple of pictures.
  - frontalier 3y ago
    at 60MB it is still one million downloads
    - krick 3y ago
      I'm not trying to justify netlify, because it's pretty obvious all cloud providers have vile intentions here (even though they pretend otherwise): it's obvious that total majority of use cases for such platforms are toy or small-scale projects, and literally everyone in this market would prefer their website being shut down, rather than getting $100K (or even $5K) bill, BUT… 1 million downloads (= visits) is nothing for "going viral overnight"
brnt 3y ago
Anyone exceeding their plan with a factor of 10 or hell, let's make it a 100, almost certainly didn't anticipate it and thus isn't prepared for the kind of bill that apparently comes with it (or even knows that there would be a bill). On top of that, there currently is no way to state such rules up front! Moverover, according to their own explanation, it was almost certainly not organic traffic! I wager the vast majority of people in the free tier would gladly cap their traffic at the (generous!) bandwidth offered by Netlify. Even to the majority in paid tiers, 100k bills where there previously was none must be unwanted and unintended. I mean, we all know dark patterns are a thing...
pants2 3y ago
Most people won't want to fork over $100k to support a hobby project that's gone viral either.