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I have sold my Apple shares. Apple will lose that fight. Just like MS was forced to allow other browsers 15 years ago.

by thomas-guettler 3y ago

scarface_74 3y ago
That never happened in the US
- goosedragons 3y ago
  It did happen in the EU where they have sabotaged web apps though...
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    And the browser initiative - like most EU laws regarding tech - was not affective https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/12/windows-browser-ballot-comes-to-an-end-as-ec-obligation-expires/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/12/windo... > While there were early signs that the browser ballot screen was influencing browser usage in the EU, with Mozilla attributing some European Firefox growth to the selection page, long-term trends strongly suggest that it was next to useless. In spite of equally prominent placement on the selection screen, Opera's share even within Europe appears to have declined over the last five years. So too have Firefox and Internet Explorer. Chrome, however, has experienced significant growth.
    - amf12 3y ago
      Not effective implies you believe users would have chosen other browsers when offered a choice. The fact that they chose their preferred browser, regardless of the reason for their preference, shows that it was effective.
      - scarface_74 3y ago
        Did it in fact accomplish its goal? To increase diversity of browsers?
        goosedragons 3y ago
        Is internet explorer still the dominant browser in the EU?
        scarface_74 3y ago
        So now it’s Chrome? A browser made by privacy invasive ad tech company? Meet the new boss.
- over_byte 3y ago
  Neither did the necessity to add cookie collection warnings to all sites that use them. In spite of what some Americans believe, if the EU sneezes, the US catches a cold (and vice versa, for the record)
bamboozled 3y ago
You sold your shares on principal, or you think they're about to lose value, because if you think you'll lose money, take a look at the M$ share price.
- thomas-guettler 3y ago
  Both. I don't do day trading. I focus on the long run. At the moment Apple looks healthy. Somehow they were able to suppress the next steps of evolution of web tech. The topic is so difficult because you can install third party browser, but not third party browser engines. I never thought lawmakers will understand that issue. But some did and EU DMA is just the beginning. Nobody needs native apps. Why are there only few PWAs? Because of AppleBrowserBan. Apple want you to pay the AppStore Tax. As soon as there are alternative browser engines on iOS, the next innovation cycle starts. I am optimistic, the web, the universal platform, will shine stronger and beautifully after the decade of "we need native apps".

I have sold my Apple shares. Apple will lose that fight. Just like MS was forced to allow other browsers 15 years ago.

scarface_74 3y ago

That never happened in the US

goosedragons 3y ago
It did happen in the EU where they have sabotaged web apps though...
- scarface_74 3y ago
  And the browser initiative - like most EU laws regarding tech - was not affective https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/12/windows-browser-ballot-comes-to-an-end-as-ec-obligation-expires/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/12/windo... > While there were early signs that the browser ballot screen was influencing browser usage in the EU, with Mozilla attributing some European Firefox growth to the selection page, long-term trends strongly suggest that it was next to useless. In spite of equally prominent placement on the selection screen, Opera's share even within Europe appears to have declined over the last five years. So too have Firefox and Internet Explorer. Chrome, however, has experienced significant growth.
  - amf12 3y ago
    Not effective implies you believe users would have chosen other browsers when offered a choice. The fact that they chose their preferred browser, regardless of the reason for their preference, shows that it was effective.
    - scarface_74 3y ago
      Did it in fact accomplish its goal? To increase diversity of browsers?
      - goosedragons 3y ago
        Is internet explorer still the dominant browser in the EU?
        scarface_74 3y ago
        So now it’s Chrome? A browser made by privacy invasive ad tech company? Meet the new boss.
over_byte 3y ago
Neither did the necessity to add cookie collection warnings to all sites that use them. In spite of what some Americans believe, if the EU sneezes, the US catches a cold (and vice versa, for the record)

bamboozled 3y ago

You sold your shares on principal, or you think they're about to lose value, because if you think you'll lose money, take a look at the M$ share price.

thomas-guettler 3y ago
Both. I don't do day trading. I focus on the long run. At the moment Apple looks healthy. Somehow they were able to suppress the next steps of evolution of web tech. The topic is so difficult because you can install third party browser, but not third party browser engines. I never thought lawmakers will understand that issue. But some did and EU DMA is just the beginning. Nobody needs native apps. Why are there only few PWAs? Because of AppleBrowserBan. Apple want you to pay the AppStore Tax. As soon as there are alternative browser engines on iOS, the next innovation cycle starts. I am optimistic, the web, the universal platform, will shine stronger and beautifully after the decade of "we need native apps".