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Woof. I was considering kicking the tires on Netlify, but they are officially out of consideration now.

by fbdab103 3y ago

rKarpinski 3y ago
Doesn't make me feel great about Vercel either (which I was looking at)
- mdhb 3y ago
  Id recommend avoiding Vercel like the plague. Their entire business model is poorly aligned with your interests as a customer.
- gempir 3y ago
  Why? If you use Vercel in the Free Tier you cannot automatically go to the Pro tier. You need to manually upgrade. Unless you need more than the Free-Tier Vercel should be fine.
  - auggierose 3y ago
    If you use Netlify in the free tier you cannot automatically go to pro tier either. Yet they will charge you for bandwidth > 100GB, and THERE IS NO WAY FOR YOU TO SWITCH THAT OFF, even in the free tier. "Should be fine" is exactly what is not the case here. Better check your Vercel terms again.
    - gempir 3y ago
      Wow that's indeed very bad from Netlify. From every Vercel document that I can read though is that when you exceed the limits of free tier they are just locked for 30 days unless you upgrade to Pro. So unless I am mistaken this cannot happen on Vercel.
    - aembleton 3y ago
      I've never given them any card details. Worst they can do is shutdown my website (or replace with goatse).
      - dbish 3y ago
        If you're in the US at least there are still bill collectors and the like which I wouldn’t want to deal with personally
  - rKarpinski 3y ago
    Would be for a new business. Not a fan of introducing this sort of tail risk & whatever other risks I don't even know about for their managed service, when there are simpler ways to host I've done for years.
- leerob 3y ago
  Vercel has spend management controls, setting limits and SMS alerting: https://vercel.com/blog/introducing-spend-management-realtime-usage-alerts-sms-notifications https://vercel.com/blog/introducing-spend-management-realtim...
sneak 3y ago
There are lots of reasons to avoid Netlify. https://github.com/netlify/cli/issues/739 https://github.com/netlify/cli/issues/739
- fxtentacle 3y ago
  That sounds like a company that is happy to ignore customer pain. Agree, default-on telemetry that cannot fully be disabled is a red flag that on their side, the people with development experience have no say.
- MrBuddyCasino 3y ago
  This seems like a lot of brouhaha about nothing. They just recorded the fact that a user opted out of telemetry, they didn't stealthily send telemetry against user wishes. They removed this call in the meantime [0]. [0] https://github.com/netlify/cli/pull/740/files https://github.com/netlify/cli/pull/740/files

Woof. I was considering kicking the tires on Netlify, but they are officially out of consideration now.

rKarpinski 3y ago

Doesn't make me feel great about Vercel either (which I was looking at)

mdhb 3y ago
Id recommend avoiding Vercel like the plague. Their entire business model is poorly aligned with your interests as a customer.
gempir 3y ago
Why? If you use Vercel in the Free Tier you cannot automatically go to the Pro tier. You need to manually upgrade. Unless you need more than the Free-Tier Vercel should be fine.
- auggierose 3y ago
  If you use Netlify in the free tier you cannot automatically go to pro tier either. Yet they will charge you for bandwidth > 100GB, and THERE IS NO WAY FOR YOU TO SWITCH THAT OFF, even in the free tier. "Should be fine" is exactly what is not the case here. Better check your Vercel terms again.
  - gempir 3y ago
    Wow that's indeed very bad from Netlify. From every Vercel document that I can read though is that when you exceed the limits of free tier they are just locked for 30 days unless you upgrade to Pro. So unless I am mistaken this cannot happen on Vercel.
  - aembleton 3y ago
    I've never given them any card details. Worst they can do is shutdown my website (or replace with goatse).
    - dbish 3y ago
      If you're in the US at least there are still bill collectors and the like which I wouldn’t want to deal with personally
- rKarpinski 3y ago
  Would be for a new business. Not a fan of introducing this sort of tail risk & whatever other risks I don't even know about for their managed service, when there are simpler ways to host I've done for years.
leerob 3y ago
Vercel has spend management controls, setting limits and SMS alerting: https://vercel.com/blog/introducing-spend-management-realtime-usage-alerts-sms-notifications https://vercel.com/blog/introducing-spend-management-realtim...

sneak 3y ago

There are lots of reasons to avoid Netlify. https://github.com/netlify/cli/issues/739 https://github.com/netlify/cli/issues/739

fxtentacle 3y ago
That sounds like a company that is happy to ignore customer pain. Agree, default-on telemetry that cannot fully be disabled is a red flag that on their side, the people with development experience have no say.
MrBuddyCasino 3y ago
This seems like a lot of brouhaha about nothing. They just recorded the fact that a user opted out of telemetry, they didn't stealthily send telemetry against user wishes. They removed this call in the meantime [0]. [0] https://github.com/netlify/cli/pull/740/files https://github.com/netlify/cli/pull/740/files