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Are Ferraris that fast? I thought the whole point of them was being loud and obnoxious (in every sense of the word).

by genter 3y ago

shiroiushi 3y ago
I don't know how you got that crazy idea. The point of Ferraris is to look sexy and show off your wealth. They're pretty fast too, but not the fastest cars in the world (Lamborghinis are probably faster in a straight line). They're rather loud compared to a typical sedan car, but lots of other vehicles are louder. You're probably thinking of Harley-Davidson motorcycles.
- presentation 3y ago
  So basically the whole point of them is being loud and obnoxious (in every sense of the word)
  - lm28469 3y ago
    If our goal was to have bland and underperforming things we wouldn't be that deep in capitalism
- netsharc 3y ago
  > The point of Ferraris is to look sexy and show off your wealth. This is why I wonder why anyone (at least in the West) would buy a Yangwang, instead of a Ferrari. A handbag could be nicely designed and crafted excellently, but many would still rather pay more for a Louis Vuitton.
  - shiroiushi 3y ago
    Two things: 1) people really buy Louis Vuitton stuff for the brand name itself, so they can show off their wealth. "Look, I paid $500 for a belt that's no better than a $25 belt from Macy's!" So partially yes, a Yangwang isn't going to have the same brand appeal. 2) Unlike a belt, a layman can't tell how good a car is by just looking at it. Cars are incredibly complex machines. So normal people use brands and brand reputation to judge cars, which is why Toyota and Honda are so well-regarded. It takes a lot of time to build a reputation for quality, since people expect cars to last for many years without breaking down. A weird Chinese brand that no one's heard of isn't going to have a perception of quality until people in the West have been driving them for 5+ years. And people who buy to signal wealth, rather than for quality, probably aren't ever going to buy them.
ein0p 3y ago
Not by EV standards. No gas car is faster than $90K Model S Plaid. Very, very few are faster than $75K “plain” Model S, or its counterparts in the lineups of other manufacturers. In fact most “hypercars” are now slower than the Cybertruck.
- lm28469 3y ago
  It depends if we're talking about two launch control on a drag strip or actual speed on a track, in which case a plaid S get smoked by quite a lot of cars actually, and a lot are similarly priced or cheaper than a plaid S https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nürburgring_Nordschleife_lap_times https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nürburgring_Nordschlei...
  - ein0p 3y ago
    That is very valuable to dozens of us (dozens!) who race our cars at Nurnburgring.

Are Ferraris that fast? I thought the whole point of them was being loud and obnoxious (in every sense of the word).

by genter 3y ago

Are Ferraris that fast? I thought the whole point of them was being loud and obnoxious (in every sense of the word).

I don't know how you got that crazy idea. The point of Ferraris is to look sexy and show off your wealth. They're pretty fast too, but not the fastest cars in the world (Lamborghinis are probably faster in a straight line). They're rather loud compared to a typical sedan car, but lots of other vehicles are louder. You're probably thinking of Harley-Davidson motorcycles.

presentation 3y ago
So basically the whole point of them is being loud and obnoxious (in every sense of the word)
- lm28469 3y ago
  If our goal was to have bland and underperforming things we wouldn't be that deep in capitalism
netsharc 3y ago
> The point of Ferraris is to look sexy and show off your wealth. This is why I wonder why anyone (at least in the West) would buy a Yangwang, instead of a Ferrari. A handbag could be nicely designed and crafted excellently, but many would still rather pay more for a Louis Vuitton.
- shiroiushi 3y ago
  Two things: 1) people really buy Louis Vuitton stuff for the brand name itself, so they can show off their wealth. "Look, I paid $500 for a belt that's no better than a $25 belt from Macy's!" So partially yes, a Yangwang isn't going to have the same brand appeal. 2) Unlike a belt, a layman can't tell how good a car is by just looking at it. Cars are incredibly complex machines. So normal people use brands and brand reputation to judge cars, which is why Toyota and Honda are so well-regarded. It takes a lot of time to build a reputation for quality, since people expect cars to last for many years without breaking down. A weird Chinese brand that no one's heard of isn't going to have a perception of quality until people in the West have been driving them for 5+ years. And people who buy to signal wealth, rather than for quality, probably aren't ever going to buy them.

ein0p 3y ago

Not by EV standards. No gas car is faster than $90K Model S Plaid. Very, very few are faster than $75K “plain” Model S, or its counterparts in the lineups of other manufacturers. In fact most “hypercars” are now slower than the Cybertruck.

lm28469 3y ago
It depends if we're talking about two launch control on a drag strip or actual speed on a track, in which case a plaid S get smoked by quite a lot of cars actually, and a lot are similarly priced or cheaper than a plaid S https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nürburgring_Nordschleife_lap_times https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nürburgring_Nordschlei...
- ein0p 3y ago
  That is very valuable to dozens of us (dozens!) who race our cars at Nurnburgring.