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> people were scared that they were going to be the next building demolition squad every time they got on a flight. Some fancy looking machines and long lines m

by cj 3y ago

> people were scared that they were going to be the next building demolition squad every time they got on a flight. Some fancy looking machines and long lines make it feel like someone's doing something I mean the only negative news I hear about planes is Boeing’s QA issues. When was the last terror attack on a plane? Is it possible the metal detectors are actually working and not just security theater? Or are other changes like a locked cockpit door the real reason consumer confidence in flying is high (only brought down by Boeing engineering issues)?

eropple 3y ago
> Is it possible the metal detectors are actually working and not just security theater? The results have been consistently poor over a long period of time. Just one example: https://web.archive.org/web/20181009074941/http:/oversight.house.gov:80/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/5-9-2012-Joint-TSA-Staff-Report-FINAL.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20181009074941/http:/oversight.h... It's possible that they are doing something for sure, but also possible they're just a tiger rock.
- invalidlogin 3y ago
  What is a tiger rock?
  - xethos 3y ago
    Physically and visually impressive, but unlikely to get up and do anything
  - cdelsolar 3y ago
    Simpsons reference. A rock that keeps tigers away. “You don’t see any tigers around here do you?”
    - eesmith 3y ago
      And here is a clip of the relevant scene, from the episode "Much Apu About Nothing" (1996), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSVqLHghLpw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSVqLHghLpw Quoting from its IMDB entry at https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0774432/characters/nm0810379 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0774432/characters/nm0810379 : Lisa : Dad, what if I were to tell you that this rock keeps away tigers. Homer : Uh-huh, and how does it work? Lisa : It doesn't work. It's just a stupid rock. Homer : I see. Lisa : But you don't see any tigers around, do you? Homer : Lisa, I'd like to buy your rock.
sneak 3y ago
The TSA misses substantial fractions of weapons at checkpoints per internal testing. What this means is that approximately no one is attempting to blow up or hijack planes, otherwise they would be successful, as the test show 40+ percent of weapons will make it through screening checkpoints. It used to be twice that. They improved to only missing one third.

by cj 3y ago

eropple 3y ago

> Is it possible the metal detectors are actually working and not just security theater? The results have been consistently poor over a long period of time. Just one example: https://web.archive.org/web/20181009074941/http:/oversight.house.gov:80/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/5-9-2012-Joint-TSA-Staff-Report-FINAL.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20181009074941/http:/oversight.h... It's possible that they are doing something for sure, but also possible they're just a tiger rock.

invalidlogin 3y ago
What is a tiger rock?
- xethos 3y ago
  Physically and visually impressive, but unlikely to get up and do anything
- cdelsolar 3y ago
  Simpsons reference. A rock that keeps tigers away. “You don’t see any tigers around here do you?”
  - eesmith 3y ago
    And here is a clip of the relevant scene, from the episode "Much Apu About Nothing" (1996), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSVqLHghLpw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSVqLHghLpw Quoting from its IMDB entry at https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0774432/characters/nm0810379 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0774432/characters/nm0810379 : Lisa : Dad, what if I were to tell you that this rock keeps away tigers. Homer : Uh-huh, and how does it work? Lisa : It doesn't work. It's just a stupid rock. Homer : I see. Lisa : But you don't see any tigers around, do you? Homer : Lisa, I'd like to buy your rock.

sneak 3y ago

The TSA misses substantial fractions of weapons at checkpoints per internal testing. What this means is that approximately no one is attempting to blow up or hijack planes, otherwise they would be successful, as the test show 40+ percent of weapons will make it through screening checkpoints. It used to be twice that. They improved to only missing one third.