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Covid-19 mRNA Vaccines: Lessons Learned from Trials and Global Vaccination

6 points by g42gregory 3y ago

keernan 3y ago
Take this down. I thought this was written by the government. Instead it is written by a right wing anti-vax troll farm. Written by truthforhealth.org Total 100% bullshit. Get it out of here. Outrageous this crap is being posted here on HN.
- g42gregory 3y ago
  I have no idea what the Truth For Health is and why does it matter who wrote it? Is it the truth? I don't know btw. If you have something to say on the substance of the paper, please do so. Maybe somebody with biological background can chime in? Here is the full list of authors: M. Nathaniel Mead [1] , Stephanie Seneff [2] , Russ Wolfinger [3] , Jessica Rose [4] , Kris Denhaerynck [5] , Steve Kirsch [6] , Peter A. McCullough [7], [8] 1. Biology and Nutritional Epidemiology, Independent Research, Copper Hill, USA 2. Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, USA 3. Biostatistics and Epidemiology, Independent Research, Research Triangle Park, USA 4. Immunology and Public Health Research, Independent Research, Ottawa, CAN 5. Epidemiology and Biostatistics, Independent Research, Basel, CHE 6. Data Science, Independent Research, Los Angeles, USA 7. Cardiology, Epidemiology, and Public Health, McCullough Foundation, Dallas, USA 8. Cardiology, Epidemiology, and Public Health, Truth for Health Foundation, Tucson, USA
  - g42gregory 3y ago
    Having said that, I see a lot of people with "Independent Research" background, meaning they currently not affiliated with any institution. That's not encouraging. On the other hand, I see a person from MIT CSAIL, so there is that.
  - keernan 3y ago
    "A study conducted by librarians of Emory University found that Cureus was in the top 2 of institutional publications deemed predatory or untrustworthy." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cureus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cureus "Steven Todd Kirsch is an American entrepreneur. He has started several companies and was one of two people who independently invented the first version of the optical mouse. Kirsch has been both a philanthropic supporter of medical research, and a promoter of misinformation about COVID-19 vaccines." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Kirsch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Kirsch
    - g42gregory 3y ago
      I am sorry, but this is still a character attack on the authors. Do you have anything to say about the actual content of the paper?
      - keernan 3y ago
        Article author Steve Kirsch is identified by Wikipedia as pushing vaccine misinformation. If his article is going to be posted on HN, then his questionable background needs to be posted as well.

6 points by g42gregory 3y ago

Take this down. I thought this was written by the government. Instead it is written by a right wing anti-vax troll farm. Written by truthforhealth.org Total 100% bullshit. Get it out of here. Outrageous this crap is being posted here on HN.

g42gregory 3y ago
I have no idea what the Truth For Health is and why does it matter who wrote it? Is it the truth? I don't know btw. If you have something to say on the substance of the paper, please do so. Maybe somebody with biological background can chime in? Here is the full list of authors: M. Nathaniel Mead [1] , Stephanie Seneff [2] , Russ Wolfinger [3] , Jessica Rose [4] , Kris Denhaerynck [5] , Steve Kirsch [6] , Peter A. McCullough [7], [8] 1. Biology and Nutritional Epidemiology, Independent Research, Copper Hill, USA 2. Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, USA 3. Biostatistics and Epidemiology, Independent Research, Research Triangle Park, USA 4. Immunology and Public Health Research, Independent Research, Ottawa, CAN 5. Epidemiology and Biostatistics, Independent Research, Basel, CHE 6. Data Science, Independent Research, Los Angeles, USA 7. Cardiology, Epidemiology, and Public Health, McCullough Foundation, Dallas, USA 8. Cardiology, Epidemiology, and Public Health, Truth for Health Foundation, Tucson, USA
- g42gregory 3y ago
  Having said that, I see a lot of people with "Independent Research" background, meaning they currently not affiliated with any institution. That's not encouraging. On the other hand, I see a person from MIT CSAIL, so there is that.
- keernan 3y ago
  "A study conducted by librarians of Emory University found that Cureus was in the top 2 of institutional publications deemed predatory or untrustworthy." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cureus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cureus "Steven Todd Kirsch is an American entrepreneur. He has started several companies and was one of two people who independently invented the first version of the optical mouse. Kirsch has been both a philanthropic supporter of medical research, and a promoter of misinformation about COVID-19 vaccines." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Kirsch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Kirsch
  - g42gregory 3y ago
    I am sorry, but this is still a character attack on the authors. Do you have anything to say about the actual content of the paper?
    - keernan 3y ago
      Article author Steve Kirsch is identified by Wikipedia as pushing vaccine misinformation. If his article is going to be posted on HN, then his questionable background needs to be posted as well.