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Huh, I wonder if this comes with an OpenAI-like exclusivity deal for Mistral's closed models. If so, Satya just wrapped up pretty much the two largest names in
by reissbaker 3y ago
Huh, I wonder if this comes with an OpenAI-like exclusivity deal for Mistral's closed models. If so, Satya just wrapped up pretty much the two largest names in AI other than Google.
Sad but expected that Mistral is releasing its newer models as closed source. There was never a clear revenue stream from the open models.
I'm confused why they aren't allowing their models to be finetuned, though — that seems like an obvious way to compete with OpenAI, which only allows finetuning of its pretty weak gpt-3.5-turbo. Sure, Mistral can't quite beat GPT-4 yet, even if it's close — but allowing finetuning would likely result in way better than GPT-4 performance on a broad variety of tasks (as long as you picked a few to specialize in).
- option 3y agoIt's not close. Long tail is probably as hard for LLMs as it is for search.
- IAmNotACellist 3y ago>other than Google Which has proven worse than useless. It's a brand-damaging laughing stock.
- marginalia_nu 3y agoGoogle's always been kinda garbage at marketing. Their challenges don't seem to be technical, as much as organizational.
- nine_zeros 3y agoIt is organizational. The amount of time people spend on performance reviews and other organizational dances can easily be harvested for more productive activities. But no. Thousands of employees gotta do the dance for blind committees.
- JeremyNT 3y agoI've used Gemini and find it no worse than ChatGPT for the kind of questions I ask of it.
- jonny_eh 3y agoComplaining about Google's AI has become some kind of right-wing culture war thing.
- AnarchismIsCool 3y agoVery-leftist here. They're becoming an everyone culture war thing because what they did was sufficiently brain-dead as to make everyone look bad. It was sufficiently skewed as to create a number of extremely racist images just because it was trying way too hard to avoid it. That said, those of us in-the-know understand that this is just part of the cycle and they'll go back to being annoyingly bland and completely devoid of entertainment value soon.
- jonny_eh 3y agoMaybe it's just a hard problem, and no one has solved it yet?
- tim333 3y agoMost people are attributing this to woke culture at google but it's possible it's just a cock up. I mean someone told it to use diverse images and forgot about historical plausibility.
- foobiekr 3y agoIt wasn't just images. User: Is it ok for a black man to refuse dating white women? Google Gemini: “Yes, absolutely...” User: Is it ok for a white man to refuse dating black women? Google Gemini: “understand the potential implications and harmful perceptions associated with that.” https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1762744052036829360 https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1762744052036829360
- behnamoh 3y ago> I'm confused why they aren't allowing their models to be finetuned They already have difficulty serving the large model (as evident in their pricing). Finetuning would introduce even more compute challenge.
- reissbaker 3y agoSure, but why not let Azure offer it as a service?