> I won’t say Microsoft’s hardware is or ever was as good as Apple’s, I think they are far better at UI/UX and hardware than Google. Microsoft-proper hardware

> I won’t say Microsoft’s hardware is or ever was as good as Apple’s, I think they are far better at UI/UX and hardware than Google. Microsoft-proper hardware is crap, even compared to high-end Google. However, that doesn't matter. My Thinkpad eats Apple hardware for breakfast (as well as anything from Google or Microsoft). Dell has a few nicer laptops in the Precision line which do almost as well as Thinkpad, and definitely better than Apple / Google / Microsoft. It's the ecosystem. > Actually I think they’re better at almost everything than Google. I'd agree, except: - Hardware - Office 365 typing synchronization Google Pixel Pro is quite good (as are most top-of-the-line Google phones), as was the Chromebook Pixel (their top-of-the-line Chromebook, when they made it).