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Huawei has created the “ascend” series ai chip. Reportedly it has 80% of A100 in theoretical performance. Rumor is that they had trouble selling it against A10

• alephnerd 3y ago
  It's still fabricated by TSMC though. Domestic fabrication is still at the 28nm phase at most. That said, the Ascend series a fairly massive leap, as it means domestic EDA capabilities have grown massively in China. That said, I remember they had a massive Design labs in both SV and Delhi+Bangalore that poached from the Samsung, Nvidia, and Intel labs in town before they were kicked out of US+India so idk how much design was done domestically in China.
  • DinaCoder99 3y ago
    > Domestic fabrication is still at the 28nm phase at most. Allegedly SMIC has both 14nm and 7nm fabs as of last year.
    • alephnerd 3y ago
      Allegedly but with low yield rates and leveraging ASML+Nikon DUV products. Not to say that Chinese vendors won't eventually crack that nut, but it'll take several (3-7) years. Also, domestic design capacity seems to be somewhat lacking (though rapidly changing) The most cutting edge domestic lithography tool China has is SMEE's 28nm one - that's still a MASSIVE accomplishment, but still significantly far from 20/16/14/7nm processes. Even Russia had domestic capabilities for 28nm fabrication at scale in the 2010s. That said, for most military use cases, this is more than enough.
      • alephnerd 3y ago
        > Even Russia had domestic capabilities for 28nm fabrication at scale in the 2010s. Edit: this is wrong. They have design capabilities but domestic fabrication is limited to 90nm.