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I find it interesting that last week, we had a nationwide AT&T outage and one of the causes speculated on local news outlets (within a couple hours) was a solar

I find it interesting that last week, we had a nationwide AT&T outage and one of the causes speculated on local news outlets (within a couple hours) was a solar flare [1]. Now, less than a week later, we have articles in the New Yorker priming thoughts about solar storms. Why is this relevant? Consider where that speculation started: local news networks [2]. It's worth reading Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars [3] if you haven't already to understand why it's worth me mentioning this. Easily dismissed as "conspiracy nonsense," but it's worth asking "why this, why now?" [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7scPFH0aq9U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7scPFH0aq9U [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksb3KD6DfSI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksb3KD6DfSI [3] https://archive.org/details/silent-weapons-for-quiet-wars-original-document-copy https://archive.org/details/silent-weapons-for-quiet-wars-or...

beedeebeedee 3y ago
I just read the pamphlet "Silent Weapons to Quiet Wars" that you suggested and would say it is not worth reading. There is not much in it, besides a (presumably) faked origin and typesetting, a brief analogy to physics and electronics, hushed talk of banks and domination, and a lot of hand waving and winking at the reader
- rglover 3y ago
  There's a lot more to it than that and I'd encourage people to form their own opinions. It maps fairly close to our current reality, even if that mapping is uncomfortable for some to read. Considering the publication date, you can use abductive logic to say "yep, all of this chaos was intentional."
  - beedeebeedee 3y ago
    > There's a lot more to it than that I disagree. It gestures to a lot more (operational research, electronics, physics, etc), but just loosely points to them to make analogies. If you have no familiarity with those subjects, it is better to read about them elsewhere. If you are familar with them, then the analogies just seem shallow and don't provide to the pamphlet other than to fluff it up to make it seem more scientific than it is. The rest of it refers to bankers (Rothchild!), domination and sub-nations. It also has a presumably fake origin story, and smacks of being a modern Elders of Zion like work. I didn't know anything about this pamphlet other than what you posted before reading it (and I only read it because it has a provocative title), but I would suggest to anyone else not to waste their time- go read instructive books on operational research, cybernetics, etc, instead of this pretending to be a secret book from the 70's
    - rglover 3y ago
      > I didn't know anything about this pamphlet other than what you posted before reading it. You didn't read it, then (you replied to me within 30 minutes).
      - beedeebeedee 3y ago
        I did read it- it is very short :)
    - hughesjj 3y ago
      Comments like yours are why I like HN. Reasonable discussion calling out BS and craziness with rebuttals grounded in fact, kept on topic, with minimal/no emotional flair.
mrexroad 3y ago
> Easily dismissed as "conspiracy nonsense” That’s because it is conspiracy nonsense. It’s totally bonkers if you read it with an actual open mind… as opposed to a mind already seeking to reinforce notions about some NWO and that most others are simply cattle with their brains tuned off. TBH, Reddit is a better place for fancy math and circuit diagrams to be taken at face value to help perpetuate conspiratorial systems thinking.
- tempestn 3y ago
  I read much of it as well, and agree with the conspiracy nonsense evaluation. Many references to supposed secret meetings held between international/university/etc. elites in one year or another with no specifics or evidence whatsoever. It's literally conspiracy nonsense.
- cmdpint 3y ago
  It is conspiracy nonsense. It's the bedrock of people like Alex Jones along with the fake Protocols of the Elders of Zion and the John Birch Society.
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NooneAtAll3 3y ago
> but it's worth asking "why this, why now?" because we're once again in high activity part of Sun's 11-year cycle we'll have higher amount of flairs than 3-6-9 years ago, generating relating news articles and provoking thoughts and discussions in this direction

beedeebeedee 3y ago

I just read the pamphlet "Silent Weapons to Quiet Wars" that you suggested and would say it is not worth reading. There is not much in it, besides a (presumably) faked origin and typesetting, a brief analogy to physics and electronics, hushed talk of banks and domination, and a lot of hand waving and winking at the reader

rglover 3y ago
There's a lot more to it than that and I'd encourage people to form their own opinions. It maps fairly close to our current reality, even if that mapping is uncomfortable for some to read. Considering the publication date, you can use abductive logic to say "yep, all of this chaos was intentional."
- beedeebeedee 3y ago
  > There's a lot more to it than that I disagree. It gestures to a lot more (operational research, electronics, physics, etc), but just loosely points to them to make analogies. If you have no familiarity with those subjects, it is better to read about them elsewhere. If you are familar with them, then the analogies just seem shallow and don't provide to the pamphlet other than to fluff it up to make it seem more scientific than it is. The rest of it refers to bankers (Rothchild!), domination and sub-nations. It also has a presumably fake origin story, and smacks of being a modern Elders of Zion like work. I didn't know anything about this pamphlet other than what you posted before reading it (and I only read it because it has a provocative title), but I would suggest to anyone else not to waste their time- go read instructive books on operational research, cybernetics, etc, instead of this pretending to be a secret book from the 70's
  - rglover 3y ago
    > I didn't know anything about this pamphlet other than what you posted before reading it. You didn't read it, then (you replied to me within 30 minutes).
    - beedeebeedee 3y ago
      I did read it- it is very short :)
  - hughesjj 3y ago
    Comments like yours are why I like HN. Reasonable discussion calling out BS and craziness with rebuttals grounded in fact, kept on topic, with minimal/no emotional flair.

mrexroad 3y ago

> Easily dismissed as "conspiracy nonsense” That’s because it is conspiracy nonsense. It’s totally bonkers if you read it with an actual open mind… as opposed to a mind already seeking to reinforce notions about some NWO and that most others are simply cattle with their brains tuned off. TBH, Reddit is a better place for fancy math and circuit diagrams to be taken at face value to help perpetuate conspiratorial systems thinking.

tempestn 3y ago
I read much of it as well, and agree with the conspiracy nonsense evaluation. Many references to supposed secret meetings held between international/university/etc. elites in one year or another with no specifics or evidence whatsoever. It's literally conspiracy nonsense.
cmdpint 3y ago
It is conspiracy nonsense. It's the bedrock of people like Alex Jones along with the fake Protocols of the Elders of Zion and the John Birch Society.
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NooneAtAll3 3y ago

> but it's worth asking "why this, why now?" because we're once again in high activity part of Sun's 11-year cycle we'll have higher amount of flairs than 3-6-9 years ago, generating relating news articles and provoking thoughts and discussions in this direction