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Keys were just as vulnerable. Can we allow the owner/end user to replace the security system (that allows the car to start and the doors to unlock) to match th
by RecycledEle 3y ago
Keys were just as vulnerable.
Can we allow the owner/end user to replace the security system (that allows the car to start and the doors to unlock) to match the level they need/want?
Currently, the car's engine control module (ECM) decides if the conditions are met to start the car.
We need a standard socket across the industry that sends a TTL signal to the ECM to say "It's OK to start the engine if you want to."
Yes, I said 0-5 V TTL because cars are like that. I will be very surprised if that TTL signal stays TTL and does not become a 12 V signal before this becomes a standard.
The socketed security system has a second TTL output
The socketed security system can read all CANBUS, but not write it.
The socketed system needs to be where it can receive RF, but it must also be secure so it does not become easier to replace this socketed security system than it is to replace the ECM currently.
Imagine realizing your daily driver can be easily stolen, so you replace the socketed security systems on your Dodge Ram, Ford Mustang, and Honda Accord so the same wireless key starts them all, and so they are all secure.
Modules could be made that replace turn-key locks that support this standard to eliminate mechanical keys.
Just a thought.
One last thing, this standard must not have government-friendly backdoors.
- PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago> Keys were just as vulnerable. keys require physical access. It may not be a lot of time, but you still have to break into the car. With these keyless entry systems that's no longer the case. It may not be much, but it's not nothing.
- bcrl 3y agoPicking locks requires a skill that has some level of risk to use and develop. Pressing a button on a Flipper Zero to relay a signal from a key fob in a house requires no skill. The Total Addressable Market of car thieves is now much larger with less skills. Of course it's going to result in more cars being stolen. My 2003 Alero has an anti-theft system built in to detect when the car was being hot-wired. It sensed electrical noise on the ignition. I know this as it started to malfunction in its old age and would lock me out from starting for 10 minutes as the ignition switch degraded over time. There are plenty of features like that which auto manufacturers clearly need to implement to make theft more difficult.