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I used to bjj in the mornings before work because my mentality was "If i've already been choked out, beat up, and tapped out then there's nothing worse that the

I used to bjj in the mornings before work because my mentality was "If i've already been choked out, beat up, and tapped out then there's nothing worse that the day (or my boss) can throw at me." (ie, it's all easier from 8am on)

earthwalker99 3y ago
It must feel nice to forget that your boss can fire you. The bliss of ignorance.
- parthianshotgun 3y ago
  We must accept everything and resolve inequity internally, within our souls no less! I fully support this mentality (and I need to, because I may someday be a boss, and I certainly wouldn't want my unders to realize material issues, it's better for me in the long run to let people 'self actualize' and ensure my totality)
- Damogran6 3y ago
  Once it's happened a few times, you'll find you get much more pragmatic.
- rcbdev 3y ago
  It genuinely feels nice to live in a society where getting fired is not a big deal.
  - earthwalker99 3y ago
    Which society is that????
    - rcbdev 3y ago
      Vienna, Austria.
- maerF0x0 3y ago
  It's not that he can't fire me. It's that facing (mocked) death gives perspective to the actual threat of being fired. At least in my life and circumstances being fired is not an existential threat. Sure my comforts may be threatened, but at the very worst case I can have a bed in a shelter and food from a kitchen. It's not what I want, but it's also not as dire as others make it out to be. The fear of being fired gives them more power over you. Remove the fear and take your power back.
  - earthwalker99 3y ago
    Thankfully my parents didn't live with such recklessness. With such nonsense floating around, we won't even have a society in a few generations because nobody can raise a family like that, and we should not be surprised that the few children we are producing have so many problems.
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- jiveturkey42 3y ago
  There needs to be a term for when a replier thinks they're doing clever one-upsmanship, but everyone else sees it as unpleasant misanthropy
  - kstrauser 3y ago
    "You're not wrong, Walter..."
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- happyopossum 3y ago
  You don't have to forget about it to have peace about it. Stay out of debt, live on less than you earn, and have a 6 month emergency fund in a savings account. Takes a couple of years of sacrifice to get there, but once you do, you take back that power you've been giving your boss. You walk around the office differently, you're more likely to take jobs that interest you, challenge you, and where you feel fulfilled vs the place that pays you the most.
nilslindemann 3y ago
Why would your boss fire you if you do Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu?
jazzyjackson 3y ago
Similarly, I've been anti-confrontational all my life, until I got in a car wreck where we were rear-ended on the highway and thanks to the airbag I really just had the wind knocked out of me, but ever since then I've figured getting punched in the face is probably not worse and can handle more stressful situations now. Still haven't been punched in the face tho.
- infinite_salt 3y ago
  A former UFC heavyweight flipped his truck recently and said that the airbag hit him harder than any of the opponents he had faced
- chasd00 3y ago
  i was mugged once, got jumped from behind by about 4 people and beat up pretty good, idk about anyone else but getting hit really hard in the back of the jaw with a fist is not something you instantly shake off and respond to like in the movies. I went down like a load of bricks and it took 30 sec for me to figure out what was even happening. That whole time I was getting kicked and hit more. By the time i was even capable of getting to my feet it was over and my pockets were empty.
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neilv 3y ago
My martial arts training was more gentle (Aikido, which did involve a lot of tapping out, but the sensei was very conscientious about safety, and BJJ would've been too rough for me personally). So one of my personal baselines for physical danger... I've had guns pointed at me a couple times on dark streets, including once by a crazy-overconfident young teen saying he was going to shoot me when I told him I didn't have a wallet (and I had to maneuver as he was saying this, to put a parked car between us, before I sprinted away and hopefully didn't get shot in the back once he could line me up). The other time, as soon as I realized what was happening, I went to an old script for handing over my wallet, suddenly very clear-headed and focused and calm, so much so that the mugger pointing a gun at me started getting nervous and shouting at me. I was wired after both those times, but humans evolved for brief life-threatening stress like that. Job stress is different, and can be worse for humans: * It can be something you can neither fight nor flee. * It can happen over a long period, which we aren't built for. * It can threaten more than just you (your family, your colleagues, strong values). I've had desk-job crisis situations in which the company might rest upon me pulling off something not necessarily possible, when I have to invoke calm, sharp, in-command Astronaut Mode, for days at a time. But IME that only works when you can take some command, which isn't all bad corporate situations. If one has the perspective that the job can't be worse than what they've survived, I suspect that's great, in that it will help them avoid stress adverse impact on their health. Unfortunately, I don't think everyone can have that perspective, and it's also not always an accurate perspective.
- maerF0x0 3y ago
  You make great points/caveats to what I was identifying. BJJ (rolling particularly) helped for a subset of normal work stresses as opposed to chronic stresses bordering on traumas :)

earthwalker99 3y ago

It must feel nice to forget that your boss can fire you. The bliss of ignorance.

parthianshotgun 3y ago
We must accept everything and resolve inequity internally, within our souls no less! I fully support this mentality (and I need to, because I may someday be a boss, and I certainly wouldn't want my unders to realize material issues, it's better for me in the long run to let people 'self actualize' and ensure my totality)
Damogran6 3y ago
Once it's happened a few times, you'll find you get much more pragmatic.
rcbdev 3y ago
It genuinely feels nice to live in a society where getting fired is not a big deal.
- earthwalker99 3y ago
  Which society is that????
  - rcbdev 3y ago
    Vienna, Austria.
maerF0x0 3y ago
It's not that he can't fire me. It's that facing (mocked) death gives perspective to the actual threat of being fired. At least in my life and circumstances being fired is not an existential threat. Sure my comforts may be threatened, but at the very worst case I can have a bed in a shelter and food from a kitchen. It's not what I want, but it's also not as dire as others make it out to be. The fear of being fired gives them more power over you. Remove the fear and take your power back.
- earthwalker99 3y ago
  Thankfully my parents didn't live with such recklessness. With such nonsense floating around, we won't even have a society in a few generations because nobody can raise a family like that, and we should not be surprised that the few children we are producing have so many problems.
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]
jiveturkey42 3y ago
There needs to be a term for when a replier thinks they're doing clever one-upsmanship, but everyone else sees it as unpleasant misanthropy
- kstrauser 3y ago
  "You're not wrong, Walter..."
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
happyopossum 3y ago
You don't have to forget about it to have peace about it. Stay out of debt, live on less than you earn, and have a 6 month emergency fund in a savings account. Takes a couple of years of sacrifice to get there, but once you do, you take back that power you've been giving your boss. You walk around the office differently, you're more likely to take jobs that interest you, challenge you, and where you feel fulfilled vs the place that pays you the most.

nilslindemann 3y ago

Why would your boss fire you if you do Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu?

jazzyjackson 3y ago

Similarly, I've been anti-confrontational all my life, until I got in a car wreck where we were rear-ended on the highway and thanks to the airbag I really just had the wind knocked out of me, but ever since then I've figured getting punched in the face is probably not worse and can handle more stressful situations now. Still haven't been punched in the face tho.

infinite_salt 3y ago
A former UFC heavyweight flipped his truck recently and said that the airbag hit him harder than any of the opponents he had faced
chasd00 3y ago
i was mugged once, got jumped from behind by about 4 people and beat up pretty good, idk about anyone else but getting hit really hard in the back of the jaw with a fist is not something you instantly shake off and respond to like in the movies. I went down like a load of bricks and it took 30 sec for me to figure out what was even happening. That whole time I was getting kicked and hit more. By the time i was even capable of getting to my feet it was over and my pockets were empty.

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neilv 3y ago

My martial arts training was more gentle (Aikido, which did involve a lot of tapping out, but the sensei was very conscientious about safety, and BJJ would've been too rough for me personally). So one of my personal baselines for physical danger... I've had guns pointed at me a couple times on dark streets, including once by a crazy-overconfident young teen saying he was going to shoot me when I told him I didn't have a wallet (and I had to maneuver as he was saying this, to put a parked car between us, before I sprinted away and hopefully didn't get shot in the back once he could line me up). The other time, as soon as I realized what was happening, I went to an old script for handing over my wallet, suddenly very clear-headed and focused and calm, so much so that the mugger pointing a gun at me started getting nervous and shouting at me. I was wired after both those times, but humans evolved for brief life-threatening stress like that. Job stress is different, and can be worse for humans: * It can be something you can neither fight nor flee. * It can happen over a long period, which we aren't built for. * It can threaten more than just you (your family, your colleagues, strong values). I've had desk-job crisis situations in which the company might rest upon me pulling off something not necessarily possible, when I have to invoke calm, sharp, in-command Astronaut Mode, for days at a time. But IME that only works when you can take some command, which isn't all bad corporate situations. If one has the perspective that the job can't be worse than what they've survived, I suspect that's great, in that it will help them avoid stress adverse impact on their health. Unfortunately, I don't think everyone can have that perspective, and it's also not always an accurate perspective.

maerF0x0 3y ago
You make great points/caveats to what I was identifying. BJJ (rolling particularly) helped for a subset of normal work stresses as opposed to chronic stresses bordering on traumas :)