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> After watching various documentaries Did you watch any documentaries about how it’s shipped from China, trafficked over by Mexican cartels, and entirely sold

> After watching various documentaries Did you watch any documentaries about how it’s shipped from China, trafficked over by Mexican cartels, and entirely sold by Hondurans in SF?

noxs 3y ago
I have watched it, but have you thought about why drugs have so much markets in SF, that it needs to be smuggled all the way to the other side of the earth instead of just selling them locally?
- filoleg 3y ago
  Yes, because you can sell them at a much higher profit margin in SF compared to “the other side of the earth”, even if you account for all the associated transportation costs. I don’t think that existence of the massive purchasing power disparity between SF and countries where those drugs are manufactured is a giant revelation to most people.
MyFirstSass 3y ago
So it wasn't the opioid epidemic, it wasn't the lack of safety nets, it wasn't medical deregulation and pain clinics, no it was the yellow people on the other side of earth. Jesus christ. Off course that's a problem but the way the US always blames extreme domestic problems on russians, chinese, middle easterners or anyone but yourself is pathetic in my view. You guys are the world superpower - take some responsibility, and not only by attacking or blaming other countries. And i'm not saying this to make the EU faultless, it's a shitshow over here too and for that many people are blaming middle easternes, there's always some foreigners or far away to blame and it's embarrassing. Last time i visited family in Manchester i saw similar developments but on a much smaller scale, and it's because of shit domestic politics not foreign actors. Let's blame the policy makers, the plutocrats and the people with the most influence for once and not let them excuse bad developments with hybrid warfare or some other idiotic scapegoat while they sip wine from their yachts - it's the oldest play in the book.
- reducesuffering 3y ago
  CA has far more safety nets than people give it credit for. Medi-Cal, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Unemployment, CalFRESH, CalWORKS, etc. For sure opioid epidemic and Sacklers contributed heavily, but it's typical people would hand-wring about past problems when there are active fentanyl issues right now and causes contributing to them right now. > no it was the yellow people on the other side of earth. Jesus christ. In the historic visit of Xi Jinping to the US months ago, care to guess what one of the few topics POTUS and him talked about? Cracking down on shipments of fentanyl and precursors. Maybe instead, POTUS and all his advisors should've been more focused on the Sackler family. That'll sure help all those unfortunate souls dying from fentanyl today.

> After watching various documentaries Did you watch any documentaries about how it’s shipped from China, trafficked over by Mexican cartels, and entirely sold by Hondurans in SF?

noxs 3y ago

I have watched it, but have you thought about why drugs have so much markets in SF, that it needs to be smuggled all the way to the other side of the earth instead of just selling them locally?

filoleg 3y ago
Yes, because you can sell them at a much higher profit margin in SF compared to “the other side of the earth”, even if you account for all the associated transportation costs. I don’t think that existence of the massive purchasing power disparity between SF and countries where those drugs are manufactured is a giant revelation to most people.

MyFirstSass 3y ago

So it wasn't the opioid epidemic, it wasn't the lack of safety nets, it wasn't medical deregulation and pain clinics, no it was the yellow people on the other side of earth. Jesus christ. Off course that's a problem but the way the US always blames extreme domestic problems on russians, chinese, middle easterners or anyone but yourself is pathetic in my view. You guys are the world superpower - take some responsibility, and not only by attacking or blaming other countries. And i'm not saying this to make the EU faultless, it's a shitshow over here too and for that many people are blaming middle easternes, there's always some foreigners or far away to blame and it's embarrassing. Last time i visited family in Manchester i saw similar developments but on a much smaller scale, and it's because of shit domestic politics not foreign actors. Let's blame the policy makers, the plutocrats and the people with the most influence for once and not let them excuse bad developments with hybrid warfare or some other idiotic scapegoat while they sip wine from their yachts - it's the oldest play in the book.

reducesuffering 3y ago
CA has far more safety nets than people give it credit for. Medi-Cal, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Unemployment, CalFRESH, CalWORKS, etc. For sure opioid epidemic and Sacklers contributed heavily, but it's typical people would hand-wring about past problems when there are active fentanyl issues right now and causes contributing to them right now. > no it was the yellow people on the other side of earth. Jesus christ. In the historic visit of Xi Jinping to the US months ago, care to guess what one of the few topics POTUS and him talked about? Cracking down on shipments of fentanyl and precursors. Maybe instead, POTUS and all his advisors should've been more focused on the Sackler family. That'll sure help all those unfortunate souls dying from fentanyl today.