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If your old relatives "cannot even handle passwords", I doubt they will install alternative App Stores or sideload some apps straight from the internet. On And

by majoe 3y ago

If your old relatives "cannot even handle passwords", I doubt they will install alternative App Stores or sideload some apps straight from the internet. On Android, there is usually a setting to allow apps from different sources and additional permissions, you can enable per app (e.g. a permission for Apps to install other apps, which is for example needed by F-Droid). Also this is not about preferences, but about anti competitive behaviour. Nothing will be taken from you. If you prefer the Apple ecosystem as is, you can keep using it as before, but Apple's competitors should get a fair chance to provide an alternative experience on iOS.

acdha 3y ago
> If your old relatives "cannot even handle passwords", I doubt they will install alternative App Stores or sideload some apps straight from the internet. What I would worry about more is that someone will help them with the process and they won’t understand the implications – even ignoring the direct scams, an awful lot of family PCs were loaded up with ad/mal-ware due to a grandkid, friend from church, tip from someone they read, etc. I’d especially worry about it going like browser extensions have where someone installs something when it’s not bad but then the original developer sells it for whatever reason and a subsequent owner is more exploitative. I think the idea of limiting the stores is a good one but it should be regulated like a physical store rather than run by Apple: require the operator to maintain a legal presence with identified executives, get audited for privacy, respond to complaints, etc. That wouldn’t stop Facebook but it’d at least block the lower tier of scammers and make enforcement of privacy laws possible.
paulmd 3y ago
> If your old relatives "cannot even handle passwords", I doubt they will install alternative App Stores or sideload some apps straight from the internet. the text that shows up in the browser console on Facebook.com and other major domains says that you’re wrong. non-technical users are absolutely capable of copy/pasting some bypass code into the console etc and sending off their credentials to whatever attacker, happens every fucking day

by majoe 3y ago

acdha 3y ago

> If your old relatives "cannot even handle passwords", I doubt they will install alternative App Stores or sideload some apps straight from the internet. What I would worry about more is that someone will help them with the process and they won’t understand the implications – even ignoring the direct scams, an awful lot of family PCs were loaded up with ad/mal-ware due to a grandkid, friend from church, tip from someone they read, etc. I’d especially worry about it going like browser extensions have where someone installs something when it’s not bad but then the original developer sells it for whatever reason and a subsequent owner is more exploitative. I think the idea of limiting the stores is a good one but it should be regulated like a physical store rather than run by Apple: require the operator to maintain a legal presence with identified executives, get audited for privacy, respond to complaints, etc. That wouldn’t stop Facebook but it’d at least block the lower tier of scammers and make enforcement of privacy laws possible.

paulmd 3y ago

> If your old relatives "cannot even handle passwords", I doubt they will install alternative App Stores or sideload some apps straight from the internet. the text that shows up in the browser console on Facebook.com and other major domains says that you’re wrong. non-technical users are absolutely capable of copy/pasting some bypass code into the console etc and sending off their credentials to whatever attacker, happens every fucking day