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An alternative explanation is that there is simply not enough evidence to tell one way or the other.
by onetoo 3y ago
An alternative explanation is that there is simply not enough evidence to tell one way or the other.
- konart 3y ago>not enough evidence to tell one way or the other. So they can't say who is at fault, yes. This is hardly a reason to end investigation, no?
- onetoo 3y agoBeing out of things to investigate is a reason to end investigation. It is possible to follow all leads to the end and still have no conclusive evidence.
- pelagicAustral 3y agoYes, because in the West we never jump the gun on dubious claims. For example, we never invaded Iraq on the premise of imaginary WMD...
- onetoo 3y agoMaybe that combined with the fact that Russia actively invaded another country for bullshit reasons means we don't want to point fingers at Russia without solid evidence, lest they use it to invent yet another bullshit reason to invade, I don't know, Sweden? That specific reasoning is also bordering on conspiracy, but my point is that I don't think it's suspicious that countries aren't pointing fingers at Russia without solid evidence.
- konart 3y ago> bullshit reasons That's very subjective. No one starts a war for bullshit reasons. They may sound bullshit for you but not for them. PS: hopefully I don't have to point out that _reasons_ and "denazification" casus belli are different things.
- onetoo 3y agoIf you want to split hairs about exact terminology, then /reasons/casus belli/. I hope we don't disagree that their "denazification" story is bullshit.
- helpfulContrib 3y ago[dead]
- konart 3y agoWe don't. I'm just pointing out that that those are two different things for two very different discussions. In fact there is little to no point in discussing the casus belli part.
- boffinAudio 3y agoAre the 10 biolabs that were built in Ukraine close to the border with Russia, starting in 2014 - with the explicit purpose of researching gain of function on coronaviruses and targetted genotypes as part of the CIA's PREDICT program - also bullshit, in your opinion? Because, in spite of your opinion, its not bullshit. What would the USA do if Mexico or Canada were suddenly sprouting up clandestine bio-warfare laboratories, funded by Russia or China, within miles of its border? What would Israel do if Iran had funded similar biolabs on its borders with Egypt or Jordan?
- khokhol 3y agoNo one starts a war for bullshit reasons. The point is that the stated reasons are bullshit - in the sense that they are very different from the aggressor's real "reasons".
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