Gentrifiers are usually outsiders, not original residents going upscale. That's why I don't think that bands that went from punk to new wave support the author'

Gentrifiers are usually outsiders, not original residents going upscale. That's why I don't think that bands that went from punk to new wave support the author's theory. I wasn't talking about college as a marker of class. I was referring to the quote "graduating from private art colleges that had prepared them to work in the culture industry". Private art colleges are way fewer in number than college in general, and off the top of my head, I only know of Talking Heads as a new wave band coming from a private art college (Rhode Island School of Design). It's so specific, I wonder why the author didn't name the Talking Heads specifically. (I checked, and Devo and REM didn't go to art colleges.) > The Ramones started as a high school garage band in Forrest Hills, Queens Ahh, I misremembered the particular nabe. But from the NYC perspective, that's still the suburbs. I lived all over NYC for almost twenty years. Good place to raise a family, and a bit boring. Not many subway lines, thanks to Robert Moses, so it's car-heavy, which is part of why it's suburban. Just because it's in NYC city limits doesn't make it urban. And it was probably similar when the Ramones were there.