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1. Find out what you want from a car 2. Realize a 25 year old car does all that 3. Just pay the few thousand in cash I may be weird but I don't get why anyon

by herbst 3y ago

1. Find out what you want from a car 2. Realize a 25 year old car does all that 3. Just pay the few thousand in cash I may be weird but I don't get why anyone would make dept just buy a fancy car they can't afford?

euroderf 3y ago
Cars have had electronic ignition for at least 25 years, right ? You don't want to mess around with timing lights and carburetor adjustments.
- asudosandwich 3y ago
  Totally need that SiriusXM though.
nmeofthestate 3y ago
I want adaptive cruise control, reversing camera, android auto, but I'd never buy a new car or use credit to buy a car so maybe I'm just a bit less weird than you.
- herbst 3y ago
  Camera and proper radio is a $100-$300 upgrade for any car tho. At least with those older cars where you can still DIY and use standard radios instead of the original.
speedgoose 3y ago
The 25 years old electric cars are not great.
- merek 3y ago
  You're not wrong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1
  - speedgoose 3y ago
    This one too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peugeot_106#Electric_version https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peugeot_106#Electric_version
pyr0hu 3y ago
Safety. A new-ish car has much better safety devices, better chassis, more crumple zones than a car that's 25 yr old.
- herbst 3y ago
  That's a very generalized statement. We leased a brand new fiat panda before and now have a 20 year old Subaru. Ive seen videos of both crashing and there is nothing better about the fiat.
somerandomqaguy 3y ago
Some of the tech in newer cars is just downright impressive. * Toyota's hybrids can achieve close to 40 miles per gallon on an SUV while achieving 200+ horse power and completely eliminates all timing belts and chains. No more digging into the engine bay to replace those. Just fluid replacements and inspections of the electrical connectors. * Anti lock brakes are way better today then systems from the late 90's. A 1990's car I could brake more effectively then ABS could no problem. Mid 2010's cars and onwards? No contest, ABS just beats me consistently. The controller can release brake pressure from a single wheel loosing traction while the others maintain maximum braking force, something impossible to do with just the brake pedal. It's also what makes modern traction control so good; a 6 year old can correct a minor loss of traction in milliseconds, long before the driver even realizes there's a problem. * Seatbelt pretensioners are now tied into the car's communication network, meaning in the event of a crash they can take up slack far more quickly and reduce whiplash injury. * Assuming that the headlamps are properly sealed, LED lights should never need replacing. * Reversing cameras with guidelines tied to the steering wheel angle is just pure cheating when parking in tight locations with a large car. * Adaptive headlights * Having a keyfob is super convenient. Not having to dig your keys out of your pocket to start the car is nice; not essential but I'd rather have it then not, even with the risks involved. And purchasing a newer car typically means reduced chance of abuse from a previous owner. Is it really that surprising that there's people that don't want to put the kind of effort needed to dig into and repair an older car?
- Spivak 3y ago
  > Is it really that surprising that there's people that don't want to put the kind of effort needed to dig into and repair an older car? This is weird to read having grown up in a family that has never once bought a car new. My parents don't know a damn thing about cars and it's never been a noticeable issue. Buy the car with 40-60k and drive it to 200k, repeat. They're usually not American cars but there were some Ford trucks in there.
  - acdha 3y ago
    Timeframe does matter: if you bought Japanese cars in the 1970-80s your experience on what you needed maintenance-wise was night and day different from American cars. My family in Southern California bought things like Honda Civics which made it to 200k with basically only routine maintenance; we had friends with GMs who had a hobby keeping them working and never kept them as long.

by herbst 3y ago

euroderf 3y ago

Cars have had electronic ignition for at least 25 years, right ? You don't want to mess around with timing lights and carburetor adjustments.

asudosandwich 3y ago
Totally need that SiriusXM though.

nmeofthestate 3y ago

I want adaptive cruise control, reversing camera, android auto, but I'd never buy a new car or use credit to buy a car so maybe I'm just a bit less weird than you.

herbst 3y ago
Camera and proper radio is a $100-$300 upgrade for any car tho. At least with those older cars where you can still DIY and use standard radios instead of the original.

speedgoose 3y ago

The 25 years old electric cars are not great.

merek 3y ago
You're not wrong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1
- speedgoose 3y ago
  This one too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peugeot_106#Electric_version https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peugeot_106#Electric_version

pyr0hu 3y ago

Safety. A new-ish car has much better safety devices, better chassis, more crumple zones than a car that's 25 yr old.

herbst 3y ago
That's a very generalized statement. We leased a brand new fiat panda before and now have a 20 year old Subaru. Ive seen videos of both crashing and there is nothing better about the fiat.

somerandomqaguy 3y ago

Some of the tech in newer cars is just downright impressive. * Toyota's hybrids can achieve close to 40 miles per gallon on an SUV while achieving 200+ horse power and completely eliminates all timing belts and chains. No more digging into the engine bay to replace those. Just fluid replacements and inspections of the electrical connectors. * Anti lock brakes are way better today then systems from the late 90's. A 1990's car I could brake more effectively then ABS could no problem. Mid 2010's cars and onwards? No contest, ABS just beats me consistently. The controller can release brake pressure from a single wheel loosing traction while the others maintain maximum braking force, something impossible to do with just the brake pedal. It's also what makes modern traction control so good; a 6 year old can correct a minor loss of traction in milliseconds, long before the driver even realizes there's a problem. * Seatbelt pretensioners are now tied into the car's communication network, meaning in the event of a crash they can take up slack far more quickly and reduce whiplash injury. * Assuming that the headlamps are properly sealed, LED lights should never need replacing. * Reversing cameras with guidelines tied to the steering wheel angle is just pure cheating when parking in tight locations with a large car. * Adaptive headlights * Having a keyfob is super convenient. Not having to dig your keys out of your pocket to start the car is nice; not essential but I'd rather have it then not, even with the risks involved. And purchasing a newer car typically means reduced chance of abuse from a previous owner. Is it really that surprising that there's people that don't want to put the kind of effort needed to dig into and repair an older car?

Spivak 3y ago
> Is it really that surprising that there's people that don't want to put the kind of effort needed to dig into and repair an older car? This is weird to read having grown up in a family that has never once bought a car new. My parents don't know a damn thing about cars and it's never been a noticeable issue. Buy the car with 40-60k and drive it to 200k, repeat. They're usually not American cars but there were some Ford trucks in there.
- acdha 3y ago
  Timeframe does matter: if you bought Japanese cars in the 1970-80s your experience on what you needed maintenance-wise was night and day different from American cars. My family in Southern California bought things like Honda Civics which made it to 200k with basically only routine maintenance; we had friends with GMs who had a hobby keeping them working and never kept them as long.