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> Since then, North Koreans have been sent to Russia, Poland, Qatar, Uruguay, and Mali. Poland? Poland is a EU member country, is it legal to employ North Kore

> Since then, North Koreans have been sent to Russia, Poland, Qatar, Uruguay, and Mali. Poland? Poland is a EU member country, is it legal to employ North Korean slaves in the EU? Update: Found the following link https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-8-2017-006243_EN.html https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-8-2017-00624... Some Christel Schaldemose was asking the European Parliament the same question back in 2017, but I didn't see an answer.

Throw494955 3y ago
People send to EU are not some slaves, but highly loyal party members.
- gambiting 3y ago
  Highly loyal party members are being "sent" for work in Poland?
  - ReptileMan 3y ago
    It is quite easy to be quite loyal if your family is going to be sent to the charming camps if you think of staying in Poland. Also in communist countries being member of the party doesn't mean much. I think around 30% of NK population are party members.
- lock-the-spock 3y ago
  I guess it's more that it is difficult to ensure freedoms when people stay 'voluntarily' and don't speak out. There are similar stories about Chinese clothing factories based in Italy (thus: close to Chinese prices but "Made in Italy" labels). Workers without any locally relevant language skills are brought there, housed in Company housing, eat from canteen/company shops with produce they know, etc. Hard to fight if all the formalities of labour law are respected and the employees do not speak out against abuse/actual reality of implementation. Very similar to how U.S. companies, in particular the slaughterhouses are known to work, with often irregular migrants employed for their wonderful exploitation potential. You won't speak out if you think you'll be deported and can't suppor your starving family back home... And of course even much worse is known from the seafood sector, where notably Chinese vessels essentially enslave south east asian workers - where are you going to go when locked on a tiny boat...? https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/16/the-chinese-workers-who-assemble-designer-bags-in-tuscany https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/16/the-chinese-wo... https://ww.fashionnetwork.com/news/made-in-italy-by-chinese-workers,377237.html https://ww.fashionnetwork.com/news/made-in-italy-by-chinese-... https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/10/16/the-crimes-behind-the-seafood-you-eat https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/10/16/the-crimes-beh...
- MichaelMoser123 3y ago
  > People send to EU are not some slaves, but highly loyal party members. Mr Troll, be careful with your karma: you can always wake up in some workers paradise, but be careful not to wake up on the wrong side of the barbed wire fence...
lock-the-spock 3y ago
It's a member of the European parliament asking a question to the European Commission (the EU executive). The reply is linked at the top of the page, but note that both question and answer are by now quite dated. > Overall, at the end of 2016, 630 North-Korean citizens were holding a valid residence permit in the EU for work purposes, predominantly in Poland (534).[1] > When processing the applications for residence permits for work purposes, it is the responsibility of the national authorities to check that the conditions are fulfilled, in line with the EU acquis on legal migration, working conditions and on health and safety at work. > The EU acquis on legal migration ensures that third-country nationals working in the EU benefit from equal treatment with nationals in terms of remuneration, access to social security systems and other conditions of employment. It is the responsibility of the national authorities, including the labour inspectorates, police and judicial authorities to ensure that the prohibition of forced labour is enforced. > The Commission will keep monitoring the transposition and application of the different instruments by Poland.
- gambiting 3y ago
  Remember that Poland has been caught red handed recently handing out schoengen visas(to the tune of 200k visas issues without proper checks) for cash, so I'd expect the enforcement of law around this to be very lax.

Throw494955 3y ago

People send to EU are not some slaves, but highly loyal party members.

gambiting 3y ago
Highly loyal party members are being "sent" for work in Poland?
- ReptileMan 3y ago
  It is quite easy to be quite loyal if your family is going to be sent to the charming camps if you think of staying in Poland. Also in communist countries being member of the party doesn't mean much. I think around 30% of NK population are party members.
lock-the-spock 3y ago
I guess it's more that it is difficult to ensure freedoms when people stay 'voluntarily' and don't speak out. There are similar stories about Chinese clothing factories based in Italy (thus: close to Chinese prices but "Made in Italy" labels). Workers without any locally relevant language skills are brought there, housed in Company housing, eat from canteen/company shops with produce they know, etc. Hard to fight if all the formalities of labour law are respected and the employees do not speak out against abuse/actual reality of implementation. Very similar to how U.S. companies, in particular the slaughterhouses are known to work, with often irregular migrants employed for their wonderful exploitation potential. You won't speak out if you think you'll be deported and can't suppor your starving family back home... And of course even much worse is known from the seafood sector, where notably Chinese vessels essentially enslave south east asian workers - where are you going to go when locked on a tiny boat...? https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/16/the-chinese-workers-who-assemble-designer-bags-in-tuscany https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/16/the-chinese-wo... https://ww.fashionnetwork.com/news/made-in-italy-by-chinese-workers,377237.html https://ww.fashionnetwork.com/news/made-in-italy-by-chinese-... https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/10/16/the-crimes-behind-the-seafood-you-eat https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/10/16/the-crimes-beh...
MichaelMoser123 3y ago
> People send to EU are not some slaves, but highly loyal party members. Mr Troll, be careful with your karma: you can always wake up in some workers paradise, but be careful not to wake up on the wrong side of the barbed wire fence...

lock-the-spock 3y ago

It's a member of the European parliament asking a question to the European Commission (the EU executive). The reply is linked at the top of the page, but note that both question and answer are by now quite dated. > Overall, at the end of 2016, 630 North-Korean citizens were holding a valid residence permit in the EU for work purposes, predominantly in Poland (534).[1] > When processing the applications for residence permits for work purposes, it is the responsibility of the national authorities to check that the conditions are fulfilled, in line with the EU acquis on legal migration, working conditions and on health and safety at work. > The EU acquis on legal migration ensures that third-country nationals working in the EU benefit from equal treatment with nationals in terms of remuneration, access to social security systems and other conditions of employment. It is the responsibility of the national authorities, including the labour inspectorates, police and judicial authorities to ensure that the prohibition of forced labour is enforced. > The Commission will keep monitoring the transposition and application of the different instruments by Poland.

gambiting 3y ago
Remember that Poland has been caught red handed recently handing out schoengen visas(to the tune of 200k visas issues without proper checks) for cash, so I'd expect the enforcement of law around this to be very lax.