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> $1200 Does it have to be that expensive, or is there some novelty premium (like that of Apple products) involved? Lenovo's own Legion and IdeaPad Gaming ser

> $1200 Does it have to be that expensive, or is there some novelty premium (like that of Apple products) involved? Lenovo's own Legion and IdeaPad Gaming series offer models with superior specs, vibrant screens and even (subjectively) better builds in many cases, at a lower price.

sudosysgen 3y ago
It's just how Lenovo does pricing. As soon as they stop being backordered, they're going to be available at much lower prices, and it helps Lenovo have a better negotiating position as far as volume discounts are concerned for companies who will be ordering them. It's not like, say, Apple where the price is the price. For example, the T14 Gen 4 base AMD (7540u, 16gb) is 1400$ MSRP, but you've been able to get it for 840$ for a very long time now. It will be the same for this one.
- nixgeek 3y ago
  It's not like, say, Apple where the price is the price. You can walk into an Apple Store, flash an employee badge from any number of companies, and get "Employee Purchase Program" price which is 4-8% off varying by SKU. Doesn't work for products at launch, seems to kick in around 12 weeks after. That's got me 8% off a Mac Studio and Pro Display XDR for personal needs. Whoever is assisting you in the Apple Store can lookup on their iPhone whether your employer gets EPP (and they're usually very happy to help!). Buying in bulk from Apple as a business? You'll get at least 8% and potentially a fair amount more depending on your annual volume. Apple discounts. Perhaps not as much as Lenovo. But the price is not the price.
  - sudosysgen 3y ago
    Fair enough. What I meant by that is that you don't really expect discounts to come quickly, but yes Apple does do EPPs, and modest bulk programs, they also do student discounts. What I meant is that they very rarely if ever run general-public sales for up-to-date products.

sudosysgen 3y ago

It's just how Lenovo does pricing. As soon as they stop being backordered, they're going to be available at much lower prices, and it helps Lenovo have a better negotiating position as far as volume discounts are concerned for companies who will be ordering them. It's not like, say, Apple where the price is the price. For example, the T14 Gen 4 base AMD (7540u, 16gb) is 1400$ MSRP, but you've been able to get it for 840$ for a very long time now. It will be the same for this one.

nixgeek 3y ago
It's not like, say, Apple where the price is the price. You can walk into an Apple Store, flash an employee badge from any number of companies, and get "Employee Purchase Program" price which is 4-8% off varying by SKU. Doesn't work for products at launch, seems to kick in around 12 weeks after. That's got me 8% off a Mac Studio and Pro Display XDR for personal needs. Whoever is assisting you in the Apple Store can lookup on their iPhone whether your employer gets EPP (and they're usually very happy to help!). Buying in bulk from Apple as a business? You'll get at least 8% and potentially a fair amount more depending on your annual volume. Apple discounts. Perhaps not as much as Lenovo. But the price is not the price.
- sudosysgen 3y ago
  Fair enough. What I meant by that is that you don't really expect discounts to come quickly, but yes Apple does do EPPs, and modest bulk programs, they also do student discounts. What I meant is that they very rarely if ever run general-public sales for up-to-date products.