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> The iFixit team was on-hand to advise the overall design, so there are plenty of customer replaceable parts, making it easy to swap out the DIMM, SSD, WWAN ca

> The iFixit team was on-hand to advise the overall design, so there are plenty of customer replaceable parts, making it easy to swap out the DIMM, SSD, WWAN card and battery, among other components So not the display nor the keyboard, the parts that most commonly need to be replaced. DIMMs and SSD slots are already standard aside from Apple machines and WWAN functionality has damn near always been a slotted card. All Lenovo did was make the battery easy to replace, really. That got them a 9.3 out of 10? I'm going to take a wild guess that iFixit got a contract for parts or something in exchange for stroking Lenovo's, uh, Trackpoint?

washadjeffmad 3y ago
You're going to make the Framework fans have an epiphany if you keep that up.
i5-2520M 3y ago
> So not the display nor the keyboard, the parts that most commonly need to be replaced. I'm sorry but the most common part by far is the battery and maybe the SSD followed by RAM. The last 2 are usually upgrades, not repairs. I have done a decent number of WiFi card swaps as well, to get rid of unreliable Realtek and MTK cards. I have never had to do a screen or kb swap for any laptop in my family or friend group. Keep in mind this is all based on like 15-20 laptops I had come across in the last few years.
vel0city 3y ago
Historically, Thinkpad T-series keyboards were pretty easy to swap. I don't think I've ever used one where the keyboard was really challenging to remove. See the Gen 3's. Two standard screws, a couple ribbon cables. I'd be amazed if it was more than this. It seems like you're just entirely ignoring the "among other components" you quoted yourself. DIMMs, SSDs, and WiFi slots are standardized, but more and more devices are shipping with everything soldered to the board. Its not just Apple.
- NikkiA 3y ago
  The displays on the T series are relatively easy to replace too, and you can even usually upgrade too if you bought one with one of the lower resolutions - I keep thinking about upgrading the 1400x900 to 1920x1080 on mine, but the cost of the 1080p display is such that it'd almost be worth getting a newer used T series instead.

washadjeffmad 3y ago

You're going to make the Framework fans have an epiphany if you keep that up.

i5-2520M 3y ago

> So not the display nor the keyboard, the parts that most commonly need to be replaced. I'm sorry but the most common part by far is the battery and maybe the SSD followed by RAM. The last 2 are usually upgrades, not repairs. I have done a decent number of WiFi card swaps as well, to get rid of unreliable Realtek and MTK cards. I have never had to do a screen or kb swap for any laptop in my family or friend group. Keep in mind this is all based on like 15-20 laptops I had come across in the last few years.

vel0city 3y ago

Historically, Thinkpad T-series keyboards were pretty easy to swap. I don't think I've ever used one where the keyboard was really challenging to remove. See the Gen 3's. Two standard screws, a couple ribbon cables. I'd be amazed if it was more than this. It seems like you're just entirely ignoring the "among other components" you quoted yourself. DIMMs, SSDs, and WiFi slots are standardized, but more and more devices are shipping with everything soldered to the board. Its not just Apple.

NikkiA 3y ago
The displays on the T series are relatively easy to replace too, and you can even usually upgrade too if you bought one with one of the lower resolutions - I keep thinking about upgrading the 1400x900 to 1920x1080 on mine, but the cost of the 1080p display is such that it'd almost be worth getting a newer used T series instead.