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> They remember waiting behind pushcarts, horse-drawn wagons, stalled trucks and old electrics in need of a charge. This is a fascinating insight into the dive

> They remember waiting behind pushcarts, horse-drawn wagons, stalled trucks and old electrics in need of a charge. This is a fascinating insight into the diversity of road vehicles at the beginning of the 20th century. Internal combustion engines and electric motors of comparable prevalence on the roads is a situation that we are only now beginning to witness again - after a period of a hundred years. It seems as if horse-drawn vehicles are still around in New York City as tourist attractions, but in this century I don't think anyone would even fathom enlisting an equine associate for goods transport within NYC. As for pushcarts, I would posit that the sacktrolley has probably displaced any other form of wheelbarrow or pushcart, but I've never been to NYC myself, so that's just a hunch.

walterbell 3y ago
There are human-drawn bicycle carriages for two. Upcoming are bigger pedal-assist cargo bikes, https://patch.com/new-york/new-york-city/nyc-cargo-bikes-could-get-bigger-under-new-city-rule https://patch.com/new-york/new-york-city/nyc-cargo-bikes-cou...
mncharity 3y ago
> pushcarts [...] sacktrolley [...] NYC [...] hunch Around midtown, convertible hand trucks in cart-dolly-platform mode are commonplace, piled high with boxes, sometimes inside collapsible box-bags.[1] Upright hand trucks are mostly short range delivery from a parked truck (automotive) to inside. Grocery delivery is plastic bins on carts, often u-boats, or Whole Foods does e-bike trailers. Hmm, and food carts[3] are towed. [1] https://www.alamy.es/new-york-ny-usa-22-de-julio-de-2023-trabajador-de-amazon-en-chelsea-en-nueva-york-image559445826.html https://www.alamy.es/new-york-ny-usa-22-de-julio-de-2023-tra... [3] https://www.flickr.com/photos/time-to-look/30128059361 https://www.flickr.com/photos/time-to-look/30128059361
twic 3y ago
The underlying quote from a driver is even better: > And you’ve got to remember there were elevated lines on Sixth Avenue as well as Third Avenue and Second Avenue and Ninth Avenue and all those el pillars and all the trolley cars underneath and the chain-drive trucks breaking their linkage and horse-drawn wagons and electrics that needed a charge
yencabulator 3y ago
The four wheels on the ground, low fixed platform, arches for handles and support at both ends, is often the form preferred by delivery companies bringing stuff into buildings with big enough elevators. I think what you call sacktrolley is typically known in the US as a hand truck? That form limits the number of packages that fit too much for larger office buildings, and is mostly used for residential delivery, needing to cross less even driveways, curbs, etc.

walterbell 3y ago

There are human-drawn bicycle carriages for two. Upcoming are bigger pedal-assist cargo bikes, https://patch.com/new-york/new-york-city/nyc-cargo-bikes-could-get-bigger-under-new-city-rule https://patch.com/new-york/new-york-city/nyc-cargo-bikes-cou...

mncharity 3y ago

> pushcarts [...] sacktrolley [...] NYC [...] hunch Around midtown, convertible hand trucks in cart-dolly-platform mode are commonplace, piled high with boxes, sometimes inside collapsible box-bags.[1] Upright hand trucks are mostly short range delivery from a parked truck (automotive) to inside. Grocery delivery is plastic bins on carts, often u-boats, or Whole Foods does e-bike trailers. Hmm, and food carts[3] are towed. [1] https://www.alamy.es/new-york-ny-usa-22-de-julio-de-2023-trabajador-de-amazon-en-chelsea-en-nueva-york-image559445826.html https://www.alamy.es/new-york-ny-usa-22-de-julio-de-2023-tra... [3] https://www.flickr.com/photos/time-to-look/30128059361 https://www.flickr.com/photos/time-to-look/30128059361

twic 3y ago

The underlying quote from a driver is even better: > And you’ve got to remember there were elevated lines on Sixth Avenue as well as Third Avenue and Second Avenue and Ninth Avenue and all those el pillars and all the trolley cars underneath and the chain-drive trucks breaking their linkage and horse-drawn wagons and electrics that needed a charge

yencabulator 3y ago

The four wheels on the ground, low fixed platform, arches for handles and support at both ends, is often the form preferred by delivery companies bringing stuff into buildings with big enough elevators. I think what you call sacktrolley is typically known in the US as a hand truck? That form limits the number of packages that fit too much for larger office buildings, and is mostly used for residential delivery, needing to cross less even driveways, curbs, etc.