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The point being made is that talking about the use of cobalt in batteries is actually beside the point. Unless we do something about child labor _in general_ t
by Turskarama 3y ago
The point being made is that talking about the use of cobalt in batteries is actually beside the point. Unless we do something about child labor _in general_ then reducing cobalt use will just see those children being exploited in some other way. The focus on child labor for mining cobalt is 100% just an attack on BEVs, it was never about the children who were just being used in yet another way to achieve someone elses ends.
- cogman10 3y agoYup. You see this ALL THE TIME with anti-BEV articles. The arguments being made are in bad faith. It's not that the individual cares but rather they are looking to give BEVs a black eye. Another fun one is how whenever you talk about BEVs, there's all the sudden someone that lives in the arctic circle that has a 12 hour commute (Not hyperbole, I actually saw someone make this claim in an argument). It isn't good enough to say "Well then perhaps BEVs aren't for you" instead "The technology isn't there and nobody can use them". It's just astroturfing or people trying to win a culture war.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 3y agoHey now. The governments of the world are trying to mandate those so even bad faith arguments have to be addressed. You can't just say 'those are not for you then' anymore. Amusingly, EV folks seem to be telling ICE folks what to do. FWIW, waiting on sidelines for some of this stuff to mature ( oddly, I am not talking about range, but about the incessant subscription push.. that trend has to die ).
- Retric 3y agoGovernments aren’t mandating everyone globally adopt current EV’s with current charging infrastructure. Norway is the only country with a 100% new car mandate before 2030, and they are already 87% EV’s so it’s hardly a major change for them.
- cogman10 3y ago> Amusingly, EV folks seem to be telling ICE folks what to do. Citation needed.
- DinaCoder99 3y ago> Unless we do something about child labor _in general_ then reducing cobalt use will just see those children being exploited in some other way. Oh well this eases all my concerns—let's continue to look the other way, consume blindly, and pretend like this isn't a new low for the barbarism of the west.
- TeMPOraL 3y agoI thought the lowest point was tantalum, for the past 20 years or so: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tantalum#Status_as_a_conflict_resource https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tantalum#Status_as_a_conflict_... I.e. the thing that's been going into most electronics manufactured in the last two decades.
- Turskarama 3y agoOr chocolate, or fast fashion, or any number of things.
- DinaCoder99 3y ago[dead]