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I used Ubuntu on my laptops from 2008 to 2023. Last year I switched to Windows 10. Looking at what's going on, I believe I'll be back to Ubuntu in my next lapto

I used Ubuntu on my laptops from 2008 to 2023. Last year I switched to Windows 10. Looking at what's going on, I believe I'll be back to Ubuntu in my next laptop. Cycles...

jseliger 3y ago
It may be true that Linux on the desktop is finally here, but I used to read about that on /. in the late '90s and early '00s, and people talk about it occasionally on HN. Just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it won't, but like 25 / 0 of the last "Linux is taking over the desktop" moments have been predicted.
- littlestymaar 3y ago
  Linux have been usable as a daily driver for at least the past ten years (exhibit: my mom), and with Proton it has even become usable for gaming. For people above 60 who've spent two decades using windows, Linux Mint has even shown to be more manageable than jumping to a newer version of Windows.
- amlib 3y ago
  I think by this point Linux desktop has matured enough that you can say with certain that the biggest problems is application availability. Users want to run Adobe's creative suite or Affinity software (because they have to, even tough there are some decent alternatives) or run some very specific Scientific/CAD/whatever software that has no parallel in the Linux world. Worse, sometimes its hard to get Linux native software to run on your choice of distro due to it not being available in your distro repositories yet (flatpaks are changing that but still not a perfect solution) or it being some proprietary software that was really only tested on some old version of Readhat meant for high end workstations which requires you to run some arcane scripts on the command line to install and therefore tainting your whole installation, kinda defeating the purpose of running away from messy Windows installations.
  - bee_rider 3y ago
    I understand that there are closed source software tools used in science out there, but it seems pretty wrong-headed to me. A scientific tool that doesn’t have exposed source code seems not very trustworthy. If you get unexpected results, how do you know it wasn’t a bug?
    - amlib 3y ago
      I was just citing it as an example, I wouldn't advocate for such thing nor do I know really how common this happens.
- tormeh 3y ago
  Linux is usable now, but it's not preinstalled for personal use and not approved for corporate use. That's the current issue.
treprinum 3y ago
I can't get Ubuntu working well on my Zephyrus G14 4090. They seem to have dropped the ball...
- chucky_z 3y ago
  Try Pop_OS. I had a lot of issues with Ubuntu as a daily driver, however Pop seems to have cracked the code. Fedora has also worked OK for me in the past.
- oDot 3y ago
  Always useful to look at the seemingly endless stream of Linux information, the Arch wiki: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/ASUS_ROG_Zephyrus_G14_(2022)_GA402 https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/ASUS_ROG_Zephyrus_G14_(2022... Also NixOS has a nixos-hardware repository with configurations for some laptops: https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-hardware/tree/master/asus/zephyrus https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-hardware/tree/master/asus/zep... Reasonably legible if you ever programmed anything
  - treprinum 3y ago
    I was talking specifically about Ubuntu. ASUS Linux folks recommend Fedora and Arch to have proper kernels and refuse to touch Ubuntu, so the engineering marvel of G14 with 4090 barely works on Ubuntu.
markles 3y ago
I've always preferred Mint over Ubuntu itself. It runs better and seems to drain the battery on my laptop more slowly. Cinnamon is a nice and simple DE, though I usually use Plasma.
makeitdouble 3y ago
I'm curious if you'd get a working Ubuntu install in WSL2 for all your "serious" need and rely on Windows mostly for the more mundane bits.

I used Ubuntu on my laptops from 2008 to 2023. Last year I switched to Windows 10. Looking at what's going on, I believe I'll be back to Ubuntu in my next laptop. Cycles...

jseliger 3y ago

It may be true that Linux on the desktop is finally here, but I used to read about that on /. in the late '90s and early '00s, and people talk about it occasionally on HN. Just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it won't, but like 25 / 0 of the last "Linux is taking over the desktop" moments have been predicted.

littlestymaar 3y ago
Linux have been usable as a daily driver for at least the past ten years (exhibit: my mom), and with Proton it has even become usable for gaming. For people above 60 who've spent two decades using windows, Linux Mint has even shown to be more manageable than jumping to a newer version of Windows.
amlib 3y ago
I think by this point Linux desktop has matured enough that you can say with certain that the biggest problems is application availability. Users want to run Adobe's creative suite or Affinity software (because they have to, even tough there are some decent alternatives) or run some very specific Scientific/CAD/whatever software that has no parallel in the Linux world. Worse, sometimes its hard to get Linux native software to run on your choice of distro due to it not being available in your distro repositories yet (flatpaks are changing that but still not a perfect solution) or it being some proprietary software that was really only tested on some old version of Readhat meant for high end workstations which requires you to run some arcane scripts on the command line to install and therefore tainting your whole installation, kinda defeating the purpose of running away from messy Windows installations.
- bee_rider 3y ago
  I understand that there are closed source software tools used in science out there, but it seems pretty wrong-headed to me. A scientific tool that doesn’t have exposed source code seems not very trustworthy. If you get unexpected results, how do you know it wasn’t a bug?
  - amlib 3y ago
    I was just citing it as an example, I wouldn't advocate for such thing nor do I know really how common this happens.
tormeh 3y ago
Linux is usable now, but it's not preinstalled for personal use and not approved for corporate use. That's the current issue.

treprinum 3y ago

I can't get Ubuntu working well on my Zephyrus G14 4090. They seem to have dropped the ball...

chucky_z 3y ago
Try Pop_OS. I had a lot of issues with Ubuntu as a daily driver, however Pop seems to have cracked the code. Fedora has also worked OK for me in the past.
oDot 3y ago
Always useful to look at the seemingly endless stream of Linux information, the Arch wiki: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/ASUS_ROG_Zephyrus_G14_(2022)_GA402 https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/ASUS_ROG_Zephyrus_G14_(2022... Also NixOS has a nixos-hardware repository with configurations for some laptops: https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-hardware/tree/master/asus/zephyrus https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-hardware/tree/master/asus/zep... Reasonably legible if you ever programmed anything
- treprinum 3y ago
  I was talking specifically about Ubuntu. ASUS Linux folks recommend Fedora and Arch to have proper kernels and refuse to touch Ubuntu, so the engineering marvel of G14 with 4090 barely works on Ubuntu.

markles 3y ago

I've always preferred Mint over Ubuntu itself. It runs better and seems to drain the battery on my laptop more slowly. Cinnamon is a nice and simple DE, though I usually use Plasma.

makeitdouble 3y ago

I'm curious if you'd get a working Ubuntu install in WSL2 for all your "serious" need and rely on Windows mostly for the more mundane bits.