> Of course nobody gives a crap about college degrees. That's missing the point of the example. 1) I was trying to allude to people like Bill Gates and Mark Z

> Of course nobody gives a crap about college degrees. That's missing the point of the example. 1) I was trying to allude to people like Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg. 2) I was trying to choose an example that would indisputably be considered a "junior" developer if that person were hired into a low-level role within an existing corporate hierarchy but also an example where the person indisputably took the responsibilities of a "senior" developer from the very beginning, led a team of engineers, and created great value for the company. Somehow these people are considered as "way more than a senior developer" despite having the exact same (negligible) experience level as a newly hired corporate junior developer. It feels like the only difference is whether the person is high or low in the company org chart.