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No. There is a lot of shit what would be manufactured, transported to the other side of the planet, sit in the warehouse, [luckily] sit in the store and would

No. There is a lot of shit what would be manufactured, transported to the other side of the planet, sit in the warehouse, [luckily] sit in the store and would be thrown out. Eg: all this shit made for iPhone/iPod pre-Lighting, all these thin-thick Nokia chargers made in early 2000, all USB 1.1, 2.0 gadgets. Add to this a phone/tablet cases.

robertlagrant 3y ago
That isn't a lot, all things considered, right? Could you not fit every phone accessory ever made on a single cargo ship? That ship's carbon footprint is only so big.
- justsomehnguy 3y ago
  > Could you not fit every phone accessory ever made on a single cargo ship Why do you focus attention only on the phone accessories? But even if we do focus on it: there were not a one big single cargo ship what moved them, there was a lot of trucks, trains, ships what were involved in bringing the raw materials, bringing the processed materials to the factories, from the factories to the warehouses, from the warehouses to the docks and depots, from the docks and depots to the warehouses again, to the shops, from the shops to the garbage piles. Everything in the process generated some pollution which ended up futile. And while some of it can be somewhat negated, ie it was only 1 ISO container from the hundreds on the supercargo ship - but again, that container could be with something more useful than a phone cases what nobody would buy. And yes, this is not only about phone, smartphone and computer accessories. There is a lot of shit what is made and ends up in the garbage pile. Clothes, kitchen and other consumer appliances, plastic shit for everything, Christmas decorations, automobile parts... the list is long.
  - robertlagrant 3y ago
    > Why do you focus attention only on the phone accessories? If you recall, they were the majority of your examples. I'm not saying what you're saying isn't true. Maybe all phones are futile, by some definition. Maybe pollution generated by your comment was futile. It's just an unfalsifiable claim.

robertlagrant 3y ago

That isn't a lot, all things considered, right? Could you not fit every phone accessory ever made on a single cargo ship? That ship's carbon footprint is only so big.

justsomehnguy 3y ago
> Could you not fit every phone accessory ever made on a single cargo ship Why do you focus attention only on the phone accessories? But even if we do focus on it: there were not a one big single cargo ship what moved them, there was a lot of trucks, trains, ships what were involved in bringing the raw materials, bringing the processed materials to the factories, from the factories to the warehouses, from the warehouses to the docks and depots, from the docks and depots to the warehouses again, to the shops, from the shops to the garbage piles. Everything in the process generated some pollution which ended up futile. And while some of it can be somewhat negated, ie it was only 1 ISO container from the hundreds on the supercargo ship - but again, that container could be with something more useful than a phone cases what nobody would buy. And yes, this is not only about phone, smartphone and computer accessories. There is a lot of shit what is made and ends up in the garbage pile. Clothes, kitchen and other consumer appliances, plastic shit for everything, Christmas decorations, automobile parts... the list is long.
- robertlagrant 3y ago
  > Why do you focus attention only on the phone accessories? If you recall, they were the majority of your examples. I'm not saying what you're saying isn't true. Maybe all phones are futile, by some definition. Maybe pollution generated by your comment was futile. It's just an unfalsifiable claim.