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If only we could use these here in the US to pay speeding tickets issued on the 29th of the month.

by sneak 3y ago

op00to 3y ago
Explain how committing an offense and having to pay the legally established fine is similar to the corruption mentioned in the article. Slow down and you won’t get fined.
- Kim_Bruning 3y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ticket_quota https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ticket_quota
  - jrockway 3y ago
    I mean, the ticket quota doesn't involve giving speeding tickets to people driving under the speed limit. If the sign says 35, drive 35, and you're good.
    - Kim_Bruning 3y ago
      I'm sure they could then fine you for obstructing traffic for driving too slowly. Or for indicating too early, or too late. Or for not keeping enough distance from the vehicle in front of you. Or because you used your horn. Or for not using your horn perhaps. If they just kept following you, sooner or later you'd make a mistake. Ticket quotas have been discontinued or made illegal in many places.
  - op00to 3y ago
    Do you believe you are somehow above the law, and immune from punishment later in the month? I’m confused by your response.
    - Kim_Bruning 3y ago
      We're talking about a form of corrupt behavior. Instead of giving you a ticket because you were exhibiting dangerous behavior per-se, instead it would be seen as an extra source of revenue for the county. Towards the end of the month the police would issue more citations for ever more trivial transgressions, in order to meet the quota. Obviously this had nothing to do with law or order. In many places this is now discontinued or outright illegal.
      - phone8675309 3y ago
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        Kim_Bruning 3y ago
        The dangers of speeding, drunk driving and other forms of traffic risk-taking are real. Perversely, the practice of ticket quotas incentivized a focus on revenue and revenue alone, as opposed to addressing these dangers. Dangers that you rightly point out can kill people. Ticket quotas have been stamped out in many jurisdictions, ensuring that law enforcement focuses more on safety and legality.
pcai 3y ago
Have you considered not speeding
- beej71 3y ago
  Sometimes this is not enough.
Der_Einzige 3y ago
Unironically just show up to court. I've had to pay less than 30% of parking tickets acquired as a result of showing up each and every time. When they do show up, I usually pay a small fraction of the initial fine after being polite to the cop.
- 13of40 3y ago
  Where I live, you get a discount if you just mail them a check, so if you go to court you risk losing significantly more.
- c22 3y ago
  I used to do this, but now I lose more money missing work to go to court than the cost of the ticket so I just pay for parking upfront to avoid the whole hassle.
- whaleofatw2022 3y ago
  In my state the best going to court tends to get you is a violation that won't show up on your record. You can even go in with evidence but the court costs alone to defend make it a wash, to say nothing of time off work

If only we could use these here in the US to pay speeding tickets issued on the 29th of the month.

by sneak 3y ago

If only we could use these here in the US to pay speeding tickets issued on the 29th of the month.

Explain how committing an offense and having to pay the legally established fine is similar to the corruption mentioned in the article. Slow down and you won’t get fined.

Kim_Bruning 3y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ticket_quota https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ticket_quota
- jrockway 3y ago
  I mean, the ticket quota doesn't involve giving speeding tickets to people driving under the speed limit. If the sign says 35, drive 35, and you're good.
  - Kim_Bruning 3y ago
    I'm sure they could then fine you for obstructing traffic for driving too slowly. Or for indicating too early, or too late. Or for not keeping enough distance from the vehicle in front of you. Or because you used your horn. Or for not using your horn perhaps. If they just kept following you, sooner or later you'd make a mistake. Ticket quotas have been discontinued or made illegal in many places.
- op00to 3y ago
  Do you believe you are somehow above the law, and immune from punishment later in the month? I’m confused by your response.
  - Kim_Bruning 3y ago
    We're talking about a form of corrupt behavior. Instead of giving you a ticket because you were exhibiting dangerous behavior per-se, instead it would be seen as an extra source of revenue for the county. Towards the end of the month the police would issue more citations for ever more trivial transgressions, in order to meet the quota. Obviously this had nothing to do with law or order. In many places this is now discontinued or outright illegal.
    - phone8675309 3y ago
      [flagged]
      - Kim_Bruning 3y ago
        The dangers of speeding, drunk driving and other forms of traffic risk-taking are real. Perversely, the practice of ticket quotas incentivized a focus on revenue and revenue alone, as opposed to addressing these dangers. Dangers that you rightly point out can kill people. Ticket quotas have been stamped out in many jurisdictions, ensuring that law enforcement focuses more on safety and legality.

pcai 3y ago

Have you considered not speeding

beej71 3y ago
Sometimes this is not enough.

Der_Einzige 3y ago

Unironically just show up to court. I've had to pay less than 30% of parking tickets acquired as a result of showing up each and every time. When they do show up, I usually pay a small fraction of the initial fine after being polite to the cop.

13of40 3y ago
Where I live, you get a discount if you just mail them a check, so if you go to court you risk losing significantly more.
c22 3y ago
I used to do this, but now I lose more money missing work to go to court than the cost of the ticket so I just pay for parking upfront to avoid the whole hassle.
whaleofatw2022 3y ago
In my state the best going to court tends to get you is a violation that won't show up on your record. You can even go in with evidence but the court costs alone to defend make it a wash, to say nothing of time off work