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The issue with AI is that people are going to be creating work product with it, and it doesn't require the extensive infrastructure that search has. Google kno

The issue with AI is that people are going to be creating work product with it, and it doesn't require the extensive infrastructure that search has. Google knows alot about your behavior - they can and have been able to correlate online behavior with health and meatspace actions to identify budding extremists or people at risk of addiction, etc. AI will bring that capability to business processes. With the number of little companies that are springing up, it will become much easier for outside parties to figure out how instituions work. This capability exists, but it's gated by Google and Microsoft and they have drawn lines to protect the overall business. Some jackass will install a creepy AI tool to scrape outlook and salesguys will be able to get a profile of who makes what decision in a company, for example.

dartos 3y ago
AI does take a ton of infrastructure. You need data collection and curation. Massive amounts of training hardware. And a large infrastructure to ensure you can scale. No easy feat with the current GPU stack.
- hunter2_ 3y ago
  Are there not relatively tiny workloads that fall under the umbrella of AI? Or does the term itself inherently refer to intense workloads, like how the phrase "big data" refers to sets that can't be processed by typical means?
  - tomoyoirl 3y ago
    Training AIs is almost always done with massive data, as small data usually doesn’t have sufficient information content, statistically speaking, to build a good model from it. Certainly this is the case for the generative models.
  - dartos 3y ago
    I think AI refers to large models. Smaller probabilistic models line linear regression, I’d call machine learning.
- Spooky23 3y ago
  It takes a ton of infrastructure to maintain a sustained misinformation campaign. Yet cloud providers happily sell resources and APIs to unethical companies. They rightfully don’t insert themselves into most legal business matters, with exceptions.
paulmd 3y ago
> Google knows alot about your behavior - they can and have been able to correlate online behavior with health and meatspace actions to identify budding extremists or people at risk of addiction, etc. AI will bring that capability to business processes. not in the EU it won't. if you can de-anonymize people from the data it's not anonymous, and collecting this data at all would be illegal in the EU without user consent, unless it's being used solely for the purpose of delivering the service.

dartos 3y ago

AI does take a ton of infrastructure. You need data collection and curation. Massive amounts of training hardware. And a large infrastructure to ensure you can scale. No easy feat with the current GPU stack.

hunter2_ 3y ago
Are there not relatively tiny workloads that fall under the umbrella of AI? Or does the term itself inherently refer to intense workloads, like how the phrase "big data" refers to sets that can't be processed by typical means?
- tomoyoirl 3y ago
  Training AIs is almost always done with massive data, as small data usually doesn’t have sufficient information content, statistically speaking, to build a good model from it. Certainly this is the case for the generative models.
- dartos 3y ago
  I think AI refers to large models. Smaller probabilistic models line linear regression, I’d call machine learning.
Spooky23 3y ago
It takes a ton of infrastructure to maintain a sustained misinformation campaign. Yet cloud providers happily sell resources and APIs to unethical companies. They rightfully don’t insert themselves into most legal business matters, with exceptions.

paulmd 3y ago

> Google knows alot about your behavior - they can and have been able to correlate online behavior with health and meatspace actions to identify budding extremists or people at risk of addiction, etc. AI will bring that capability to business processes. not in the EU it won't. if you can de-anonymize people from the data it's not anonymous, and collecting this data at all would be illegal in the EU without user consent, unless it's being used solely for the purpose of delivering the service.