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Technology has been quite detrimental to humanity if those of us in tech want to be honest with ourselves. It could have been amazing. We told ourselves it wa

by swalsh 3y ago

Technology has been quite detrimental to humanity if those of us in tech want to be honest with ourselves. It could have been amazing. We told ourselves it was going to connect us, and we were all going to be smarter.. but instead we abuse tech like junk food. Instead of social media enhancing our lives it causes young girls to have poor unrealistic self images. Bullying etc. Apps like tiktok have eliminated our attention spans. Young men play video games instead of going outside. Instead of kids taking advantage of having vast access to knowledge, they watch low effort youtube videos. Parents let them do it because they're just as addicted to tech. You don't have to go out of your house to go shopping, or work, or even play. We lost all local communities from church, to the office. We live in a dystopia where we spend all day connected to devices. And now there's AI. We ALL need to go on a tech diet. Find the good stuff, and keep it, and treat the rest like junk food.. which is fine to have once in a while, but the moderation is key.

FredPret 3y ago
We involved into a technological environment. Fire and rock tools were both used to create us. No tech, no humans. Modern tech is what saved us from the dour prophecies of the Malthusians. A little bit of screentime sure does beat infant mortality, polio, hunger, and the global wars we used to have.
- swalsh 3y ago
  "A little" That's the key
  - FredPret 3y ago
    > Technology has been quite detrimental to humanity if those of us in tech want to be honest with ourselves. It could have been amazing. We told ourselves it was going to connect us, and we were all going to be smarter.. Tech has been amazing for the past 100-150 millennia and couldn’t possibly be seen as detrimental in aggregate. We are in fact smarter and more connected too. The side effects are barely worth mentioning.
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- galdosdi 3y ago
  Fire is the only significant technology we've had long enough to evolve with it. (I think I read somewhere there is a theory that fire is why we evolved smaller, weaker digestive systems, since we were able to rely on fire to predigest and sterilize food, freeing up energy for other purposes) Agriculture and urbandwelling are only 10,000 years old. The railroad, telegraph, and electricity all are less than 200 years old. Not enough time to evolve adaptation to it. Maybe in a million years if we're still around we'll be well adapted to long distance instant communications, to travel faster than 10 mph, etc. But those of us who are fated to live now are stuck with dangerous technologies with scary tradeoffs. > A little bit of screentime sure does beat infant mortality, polio, hunger, and the global wars we used to have. Bizarre take. Don't you remember the 1990s? The technology to bring those boons was unrelated to, and preceded, the screentime boom. TV was popular of course, but it was the beer to the smartphone's gin. Quantity has a quality all its own. It was, from my own memory, far easier to be TV-less or nearly TV-less than it is to be offline today. In fact, we've regressed a little in terms of war and disease lately, and I wonder if the cultural regression caused by addictive feeds on smartphones, which prioritize controversy above all else, has at least a little to do with it. I really don't think responding to covid in the USA would have been such a disaster if it had happened in say, 2005.
  - sokoloff 3y ago
    Are you assuming the gene sequencing and custom vaccine development tech of 2020 or 2005 in that conclusion?
- atduskgreg 3y ago
  People who make addictive social media apps and bureaucratic enterprise software love to glorify their work by lumping it in with vaccines, clean drinking water, and global food distribution in order to claim some of the halo of those obviously beneficial technologies (though claiming “fire and rock tools” is taking that to a hilarious new extreme). I hate to break it to you but you don’t work on any of those things. You work on selling people ads and making it easier for their boss to fire them. That tech is neutral at best relative to these problems you’re claiming and often destructive — ask people in Myanmar about how social media has affected war and violence, for example. Digital technology hasn’t had a demonstrably positive impact on worker productivity let alone mortality, hunger, or war. Start being honest with yourself that working in tech is a lot more like selling carbonated sugar water or making reality TV shows than it is like saving the world.
  - ssnri 3y ago
    God damn! Threat neutralized. And all without starting a new paragraph. I agree with all this and yet it’s the sheer force of your prose that I can’t let go of
flyinghamster 3y ago
> We ALL need to go on a tech diet. Find the good stuff, and keep it, and treat the rest like junk food.. which is fine to have once in a while, but the moderation is key. Not just the internet, but television as well. I'm seeing a few signs that people are ripping themselves free of their screens and getting out more. I'll see kids on bikes any time the weather is decent, and on the bike trail more parents have their kids on bikes these days than in trailers. > We lost all local communities from church, to the office. If we do nothing to preserve these things, they will go away. Find a church that fits your beliefs and join. Get involved in the activities. Do you sing or play a musical instrument? Music has been a lifesaver for me.
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ssnri 3y ago
Before I get to my main point, ew at bringing church back. We’re talking about improving mental health and sex lives. Tech causes us to give up on self-work but increases our standards for others. Not getting enough dates? Statistically speaking, what you need to do is probably obvious: go to the gym, go to therapy, go outside. A dry spell doesn’t make you bad. Rejecting others doesn’t make you bad. Only sleeping with people you actually want to sleep with is okay. People will try to shame you for rejecting others. People will try to feed your insecurity about not having enough sex. Bitter people will try to manipulate you into sex. Work on yourself. Ignore bitter people.
- binary132 3y ago
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- networkchad 3y ago
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sdht0 3y ago
> Technology has been quite detrimental to humanity I don't think we can make a blanket statement like that. Technology does connect us, makes us smarter, give us vast access to knowledge, etc. And yes, it also enables the bad habits. There are 8 billion of us. Of course technology won't have the same effect on everyone. And would a world without technology be not detrimental to humanity, i.e., for the 8 billion of us as a whole?
rfifndi 3y ago
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by swalsh 3y ago

FredPret 3y ago

We involved into a technological environment. Fire and rock tools were both used to create us. No tech, no humans. Modern tech is what saved us from the dour prophecies of the Malthusians. A little bit of screentime sure does beat infant mortality, polio, hunger, and the global wars we used to have.

swalsh 3y ago
"A little" That's the key
- FredPret 3y ago
  > Technology has been quite detrimental to humanity if those of us in tech want to be honest with ourselves. It could have been amazing. We told ourselves it was going to connect us, and we were all going to be smarter.. Tech has been amazing for the past 100-150 millennia and couldn’t possibly be seen as detrimental in aggregate. We are in fact smarter and more connected too. The side effects are barely worth mentioning.
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galdosdi 3y ago
Fire is the only significant technology we've had long enough to evolve with it. (I think I read somewhere there is a theory that fire is why we evolved smaller, weaker digestive systems, since we were able to rely on fire to predigest and sterilize food, freeing up energy for other purposes) Agriculture and urbandwelling are only 10,000 years old. The railroad, telegraph, and electricity all are less than 200 years old. Not enough time to evolve adaptation to it. Maybe in a million years if we're still around we'll be well adapted to long distance instant communications, to travel faster than 10 mph, etc. But those of us who are fated to live now are stuck with dangerous technologies with scary tradeoffs. > A little bit of screentime sure does beat infant mortality, polio, hunger, and the global wars we used to have. Bizarre take. Don't you remember the 1990s? The technology to bring those boons was unrelated to, and preceded, the screentime boom. TV was popular of course, but it was the beer to the smartphone's gin. Quantity has a quality all its own. It was, from my own memory, far easier to be TV-less or nearly TV-less than it is to be offline today. In fact, we've regressed a little in terms of war and disease lately, and I wonder if the cultural regression caused by addictive feeds on smartphones, which prioritize controversy above all else, has at least a little to do with it. I really don't think responding to covid in the USA would have been such a disaster if it had happened in say, 2005.
- sokoloff 3y ago
  Are you assuming the gene sequencing and custom vaccine development tech of 2020 or 2005 in that conclusion?
atduskgreg 3y ago
People who make addictive social media apps and bureaucratic enterprise software love to glorify their work by lumping it in with vaccines, clean drinking water, and global food distribution in order to claim some of the halo of those obviously beneficial technologies (though claiming “fire and rock tools” is taking that to a hilarious new extreme). I hate to break it to you but you don’t work on any of those things. You work on selling people ads and making it easier for their boss to fire them. That tech is neutral at best relative to these problems you’re claiming and often destructive — ask people in Myanmar about how social media has affected war and violence, for example. Digital technology hasn’t had a demonstrably positive impact on worker productivity let alone mortality, hunger, or war. Start being honest with yourself that working in tech is a lot more like selling carbonated sugar water or making reality TV shows than it is like saving the world.
- ssnri 3y ago
  God damn! Threat neutralized. And all without starting a new paragraph. I agree with all this and yet it’s the sheer force of your prose that I can’t let go of

flyinghamster 3y ago

> We ALL need to go on a tech diet. Find the good stuff, and keep it, and treat the rest like junk food.. which is fine to have once in a while, but the moderation is key. Not just the internet, but television as well. I'm seeing a few signs that people are ripping themselves free of their screens and getting out more. I'll see kids on bikes any time the weather is decent, and on the bike trail more parents have their kids on bikes these days than in trailers. > We lost all local communities from church, to the office. If we do nothing to preserve these things, they will go away. Find a church that fits your beliefs and join. Get involved in the activities. Do you sing or play a musical instrument? Music has been a lifesaver for me.

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ssnri 3y ago

Before I get to my main point, ew at bringing church back. We’re talking about improving mental health and sex lives. Tech causes us to give up on self-work but increases our standards for others. Not getting enough dates? Statistically speaking, what you need to do is probably obvious: go to the gym, go to therapy, go outside. A dry spell doesn’t make you bad. Rejecting others doesn’t make you bad. Only sleeping with people you actually want to sleep with is okay. People will try to shame you for rejecting others. People will try to feed your insecurity about not having enough sex. Bitter people will try to manipulate you into sex. Work on yourself. Ignore bitter people.

binary132 3y ago
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networkchad 3y ago
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sdht0 3y ago

> Technology has been quite detrimental to humanity I don't think we can make a blanket statement like that. Technology does connect us, makes us smarter, give us vast access to knowledge, etc. And yes, it also enables the bad habits. There are 8 billion of us. Of course technology won't have the same effect on everyone. And would a world without technology be not detrimental to humanity, i.e., for the 8 billion of us as a whole?

rfifndi 3y ago

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