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"The more people there are, the more solutions to problems will be found." Has not been true so far, I wonder at what population amount, will this start working

by tonis2 3y ago

"The more people there are, the more solutions to problems will be found." Has not been true so far, I wonder at what population amount, will this start working ?

philips 3y ago
The article provides zero evidence for the thesis and it is baffling to see it upvoted.
inference-lord 3y ago
When I see people thinking about voting for someone like Donald Trump I know the argument that more people = better solutions is complete bullshit. Even if we technically have more solutions, having more dumb people who are able to negate all the benefits is a far worse situation to be in.
helpfulContrib 3y ago
Of course its true - we wouldn't have gotten to the moon, or been able to build world-encompassing highway and Internet systems, without the critical mass of people who built our academic and industrial institutions. To see the nature of your fallacy, just look out at your universities and wonder how they will operate, as effectively as they have so far, with half the staff. And then, that staff halves again in 10 years. Doing this, honestly, do you still have faith that the deleterious effect of humanity upon itself will be replenished with new perspectives, new generations, new ideas? We humans are instinctively cannibals. We don't eat each other literally any more, but spiritually and culturally. The moment there is less of that human culture to consume, the closer we get to actually reverting to the physical manifestation of it ..
- tonis2 3y ago
  A Lot of academics already today are just trying to keep their job, and don't keep up with innovative teaching methods, they don't record their lectures, cause who would pay them if there's a video about it ? So in reality we would be fine, if we focus on doing the job not keeping the job.
  - helpfulContrib 3y ago
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the_duke 3y ago
This seems pretty logical to me. If we assume that distribution of professions scales linearly with population size, a 2x increase in population means there will be twice as many researchers and inventors that can dedicate their life to finding new solutions. I would assume that the scaling is not linear. Do we need twice the workers in agriculture to feed twice as many people? With our modern agriculture technology that seems unlikely to me. One could argue that this is counter-balanced by diminishing returns, as in: 2x the amount of researchers won't have 2x the output. But it's hard for me to see how "more people = more progress" is false.
CrzyLngPwd 3y ago
It might start working when we take away their screens, 24/7 couch-based entertainment, and their safe spaces to escape the violence of being misgendered.
never_inline 3y ago
"Lack of people and manpower will create new challenges which will lead to innovation and efficiency" you can also say that. There are too many variables here and we the typescript and django developers with fancy command prompts better stay quiet.

by tonis2 3y ago

"The more people there are, the more solutions to problems will be found." Has not been true so far, I wonder at what population amount, will this start working ?

philips 3y ago

The article provides zero evidence for the thesis and it is baffling to see it upvoted.

inference-lord 3y ago

When I see people thinking about voting for someone like Donald Trump I know the argument that more people = better solutions is complete bullshit. Even if we technically have more solutions, having more dumb people who are able to negate all the benefits is a far worse situation to be in.

helpfulContrib 3y ago

Of course its true - we wouldn't have gotten to the moon, or been able to build world-encompassing highway and Internet systems, without the critical mass of people who built our academic and industrial institutions. To see the nature of your fallacy, just look out at your universities and wonder how they will operate, as effectively as they have so far, with half the staff. And then, that staff halves again in 10 years. Doing this, honestly, do you still have faith that the deleterious effect of humanity upon itself will be replenished with new perspectives, new generations, new ideas? We humans are instinctively cannibals. We don't eat each other literally any more, but spiritually and culturally. The moment there is less of that human culture to consume, the closer we get to actually reverting to the physical manifestation of it ..

tonis2 3y ago
A Lot of academics already today are just trying to keep their job, and don't keep up with innovative teaching methods, they don't record their lectures, cause who would pay them if there's a video about it ? So in reality we would be fine, if we focus on doing the job not keeping the job.
- helpfulContrib 3y ago
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the_duke 3y ago

This seems pretty logical to me. If we assume that distribution of professions scales linearly with population size, a 2x increase in population means there will be twice as many researchers and inventors that can dedicate their life to finding new solutions. I would assume that the scaling is not linear. Do we need twice the workers in agriculture to feed twice as many people? With our modern agriculture technology that seems unlikely to me. One could argue that this is counter-balanced by diminishing returns, as in: 2x the amount of researchers won't have 2x the output. But it's hard for me to see how "more people = more progress" is false.

CrzyLngPwd 3y ago

It might start working when we take away their screens, 24/7 couch-based entertainment, and their safe spaces to escape the violence of being misgendered.

never_inline 3y ago

"Lack of people and manpower will create new challenges which will lead to innovation and efficiency" you can also say that. There are too many variables here and we the typescript and django developers with fancy command prompts better stay quiet.